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Are there any old hands that have run a 110 powered anything? Dad said the early Ts-24 had an un-holy sound. Theres something about a Jimmy. :eek:

I ran a few TS-24s. I am not sure if the back engines were 6-110s or 6-71s
I know they were inline 6s that made a LOT of noise, more than an 8-71.
 
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Thanks Mr bucket, you made me get the book. If you ran a 24 witha inline 6 up front it was fer sure a 6-110.
 

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Thanks Mr bucket, you made me get the book. If you ran a 24 witha inline 6 up front it was fer sure a 6-110.

The 6s were in the back. The front engines (on the ones I ran) were all 12V-71s if I remember correctly. Now that I think about it the rear engines were probably 6-71s. The ones I ran were from the 60s or 70s. I don't know when they stopped making 6-110s. :usa
 

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Are there any old hands that have run a 110 powered anything? Dad said the early Ts-24 had an un-holy sound. Theres something about a Jimmy. :eek:

Yep. I owned a couple of S-18's that had 6-110's in them. 330 horses and the only DETROITS I ever saw that had any low RPM lugging power. They'd get down and make a bla-la-la-la sound out the 6" stack kindda like a MACK or CUMMINS at low RPM's. They'd make a heck of a sound when you got them wound up.

The early TS-24's had 6-110's in the front and 671's in the back. They also made some early TS-18's that had 671's front and rear.....only seen one of those in my lifetime.

The 6-110's were also quite common in work boats and rock quarries.
 

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the early TS24 had the 6-110 in the front with the 3 speed trans , 6-71 in the rear with a electric shift trans
how many parts do you want - wrecking one
 

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Are there any old hands that have run a 110 powered anything? Dad said the early Ts-24 had an un-holy sound. Theres something about a Jimmy. :eek:

Hi Wormkiller,

I've run TS-24's and S-18's with the 6-110 engine.
They sure made a great sound.
Especially the 24's as the rear 6-71 had NO MUFFLER - just the straight pipe (how they were supplied ex factory).
Now that was really something to hear.

The Budd company used to put 2 x 6-110's in their RDC railcars. Santa Fe had a couple.
 

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wormkiller. isn't yer dad deaf now?
think there's a connection?
 

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Raised on the green iron in a sewer/watermain business.Operated lots of Detroit power in loaders,excavators,compressors.3-53,4-71-4-71t,6-71,6v53,8v71-all could take abuse.The 6-71 was one that really stands out for overall durability imo.It was in a Gardner-Denver 600 compressor powering a GD Air-Trac rock drill.It ingested a lot of rock dust and would just keep on going season after season.The nicest sounding machine was the Link-Belt 5800 excavator with the 8v71(318 hp).In tough digging especially in urban/built up areas it sounded real good.Those dual exhausts would just bark-thats what a job-site should sound like.
 

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The nicest sounding machine was the Link-Belt 5800 excavator with the 8v71(318 hp).In tough digging especially in urban/built up areas it sounded real good.Those dual exhausts would just bark-thats what a job-site should sound like.

We had an Atkinson 3800 with an 8v71T in it, and it was a sweet sounding engine and go like the clappers! The previous owner had quite a reputation for being the fastest truck on the road, almost to the point of being dangerous. It was an ex light weight fuel truck with aluminium hubs and was fairly high geared. Our driver cooked the engine when a water hose let go while carting grain, but being a mechanic, he shut it down before it seized and then went on to re-build it with a new kit. The truck is still working today for a tank building crew on a cattle station.
We have a 471 in a Champion 720A grader and it just works away all day, never missing a beat. For their time, the two strokes were a fantastic engine, but with modern technology, they are now yesterday's engine.

Rn'R.
 

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Dominion 410,

You have great memories of those 2 strokes, another thing was simplicty. You could hand some tools to someone with minimal experence & they could get it running again. If you needed parts,go to the nearest Napa store. Yes the 8V71 was a great sounding engine in a constant RPM application.

The thing that amazed me was when starting one of those compressors cold,they could instantly go full RPM! Listen to this, it will remind you of the Link-Belt 5800 w/ 8V71
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy7tFN0-WhM

Raised on the green iron in a sewer/watermain business.Operated lots of Detroit power in loaders,excavators,compressors.3-53,4-71-4-71t,6-71,6v53,8v71-all could take abuse.The 6-71 was one that really stands out for overall durability imo.It was in a Gardner-Denver 600 compressor powering a GD Air-Trac rock drill.It ingested a lot of rock dust and would just keep on going season after season.The nicest sounding machine was the Link-Belt 5800 excavator with the 8v71(318 hp).In tough digging especially in urban/built up areas it sounded real good.Those dual exhausts would just bark-thats what a job-site should sound like.
 
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Jimmy "ears"

Jerry,

I have talked to many operators/truck drivers with hearing problems.Although truck drivers usually have only one bad ear, the left one!

Then every so often you find an old timer that never wore ear protection with perfect hearing. Go Figure...

Dug

Huh? Whats that? Speak up, I can't hear you.
 

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earlier in this post someone talked about taking out the standard 4-71 engine and putting in a 6-71 on the front. does this require a different tranny? i know nothing about scrapers, but was always told never to add horsepower with out changing the other drive train components. wouldnt this reduce the life of the other components or are they well enough built to withstand that?
 

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Dug Overburden,

Your right on with simple repairs.Other than servicing and the occasional water or fuel transfer pump they never gave much trouble.The infamous quote from our serviceman back then was"what size do you need?"A handful of basic tools and I believe a 7/16" wrench hook bent to get at the rear bolts on the fuel and water pump.Most times thats all it took to get mobile.
Always used straight #30 oil year round and no block heater back then.Had to pre-heat in the winter to get started-not that the engine would'nt start,just that the oil would'nt flow.Tarp it in,light up the tiger torch and used a steel can usually made from a empty gear lube container with holes cut near the bottom for the torch head.One large hole for the torch,about six more to let air in to keep the torch lit.All the heat up onto the pan,no direct flame.When the oil started to drop readily off the dip-stick,roll it over with the fuel off to make sure the oil pressure guage would start to move up.If it did ,your good to go.Started many machines at -35 with this set-up and no problems.
The only time I ever saw one destroy itself was in the 8v71.The bolt that held the drive gear for the engine oil pump sheared off.This caused the gear to fall off and the pump stopped turning.At 2100 rpm under load, the crank,mains and rods were literally welded together.

Dominion
 

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When I was a little kid in the early 60's, Dad used to take me to watch construction projects and Euclid scrapers were my favorite machines by far. I learned to tell their sound from a mile away. Good times!
 

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When I was a little kid in the early 60's, Dad used to take me to watch construction projects and Euclid scrapers were my favorite machines by far. I learned to tell their sound from a mile away. Good times!

Hoppy do you remember whose pans they were?
 

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Sorry Buckethead, but I don't remember who the contractors were. Age-wise, I was still in the single digits back then. Most of the really good projects were either in northeastern Pennsylvania or around the Binghampton, New York area. There was plenty of highway work in both those areas throughout the 60's.

I had relatives that lived in Kingston, Pennsylvania and I remember that the local Euclid dealer was on the street heading into town, just like any other business. Five and dime, dry cleaner, drugstore, Euclid dealer. Made perfect sense then. Someplace I've still got a few photos of me in the dealer's lot standing on the ladder of a wheel loader.

Well, I've kinda got off the topic here. Anyway, even as a kid I appreciated the sound of a couple of unmuffled Jimmys!
 

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If there was as much money spent cleaning up emmissions and improving economy on 2 cycle diesels as there was on 4 cycle maybe they wouldnt be yesterdays engines.
If 2 cycle was such a bad idea, why are most diesel engines over 2000hp 2 cycle?
Is the jimmy a victim of corperate accounting?
 
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