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old mechanical tracked loader with backhoe bucket

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vecchia pala meccanica cingolata con benna terna

Ciao, navigando in rete ho trovato la foto di una vecchia pala meccanica cingolata, marca e modello sconosciuto, con una strana forma di benna, credo sia al contrario, come un escavatore. A cosa servirebbe questa funzione, magari per scavare trincee? che marca e modello storico sarebbe questo trattore cingolato grazie scusate per il disagioruspa cingolata sconosciuta.png


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trombeur said --->Old Tracked Mechanical Loader with Backhoe Bucket
Hello, surfing the net I found a photo of an old mechanical track loader, unknown make and model, with a strange shape of bucket, I think it is the other way around, like an excavator. What would be the use of this function, perhaps to dig trenches? what a historic make and model would this crawler tractor be thank you sorry for the inconvenience
 

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Definitely a custom made machine. Can't see it being very efficient. Maybe used for digging up land mines or something where speed isn't the primary concern.
 

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Post in ENGLISH please.

 

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Post in ENGLISH please.

He always has, until Monday. Maybe his translator quit?
 

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He usually posts in English and is mostly looking for info on rare or unusual machines. Some are very interesting like the one in this thread. Tinkerer translated it so no harm, no foul. If he was cursing or berating someone in another language would be a much bigger deal. I think he deserves a pass because that is a very interesting and rare machine.
 

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On second thoughts the two track carrier rollers would make it a 977 of some flavour rather than a 955 which only has one. That's of course provided it is a Cat machine.
It looks smaller until you look at the length of the tracks. It's a big heavy backward loader.
 

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No clue myself, but just a guess. It looks like the operator is wearing a military Garrison cap, so possibly this is some military spec machine and not general production machine by whatever manufacturer. In the days before hydraulic excavators came along we had friction drum cable operated shovels and backhoes on crane type car body with flat track pads. They were better than using a shovel, but they weren't fast moving maneuverable. A rig like this, prior to modern excavators, would have been more compact to transport than a cable hoe, way more maneuverable as track loaders not only track quickly but turn quickly as well. That thing could dig a latrine trench in short order or quickly dig drainage trenches for a fast set up field runway. Just a guess.
 

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Penso che sia la seconda guerra mondiale, non capisco la necessità di montare la benna in quella posizione con questa conformazione della macchina, era un aratro forse per fare dei solchi tipo trincee ma penso che quella benna sia poco funzionale per il tipo di macchina , ho sbagliato? scusate la traduzione..sono italiano..
 

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Is your English translator not working? Try to post in English so someone else doesn't have to translate it and we can understand it.
 

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"Penso che sia la seconda guerra mondiale, non capisco la necessità di montare la benna in quella posizione con questa conformazione della macchina, era un aratro forse per fare dei solchi tipo trincee ma penso che quella benna sia poco funzionale per il tipo di macchina , ho sbagliato? scusate la traduzione..sono italiano.."

Translation - I think it's the Second World War, I don't understand the need to mount the bucket in that position with this shape of the machine, it was a plow perhaps to make furrows like trenches but I think that bucket is not very functional for the type of machine, I wrong? sorry for the translation..I'm Italian..


I strongly suspect it is an Italian VENDER track loader, fitted with a very unique backhoe-style bucket.

I would hazard an educated guess that it was a Vender track loader prototype, possibly built for a military contract to excavate troop trenches.

It's interesting, in that I've seen Vender crawlers here in Australia, and a few have survived - but I have never seen any photos or brochures on any Vender track loader - making me suspect it was a prototype.

It dates from the mid-to-late 1950's, because it's got reasonably modern looking hydraulics fitted to it.
A WW2 machine would still be cable control or have a very crude hydraulic system. Those bucket hydraulics are quite a sophisticated design.

The Wikipedia link below gives some information on Vender. They were based in Milan, and appear to have commenced crawler manufacturing in the late 1930's (I think the company was in operation long before this time) - and their initial contract was supplying tractors to the Italian military, before and during WW2.

So, the fact that Vender started off with military contracts indicates to me they continued in that field after WW2.
I have no knowledge of what the Italian military strength and size was in the 1950's, but I would expect it was only a token military force.

After WW2, it appears Vender set out on an export drive, but they struggled to make much of a mark in the crawler manufacturing field, and the company was purchased by Allis Chalmers in the early 1960's.

The Vender company had a wonderful and rousing choice of model names - Vender Bully, Vender Champion, Vender Conqueror, and Vender Destroyer!

All the Venders here were sold in the early 1950's when farming was booming, and much development work such as clearing, was still required.
They faded away in popularity relatively quickly due to a lack of service and parts backup.

There was also a PEGASO-VENDER tractor, built in Spain, utilising Vender components and technology - but I can find little about them, either - apart from the fact they changed the brand name to Empresa after only a couple of years.


 
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Penso che sia la seconda guerra mondiale, non capisco la necessità di montare la benna in quella posizione con questa conformazione della macchina, era un aratro forse per fare dei solchi tipo trincee ma penso che quella benna sia poco funzionale per il tipo di macchina , ho sbagliato? scusate la traduzione..sono italiano..

Sei stato hackerato?? Hai sempre postato in Inglese prima.


Did you get hacked?? You've always posted in English before.
 
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