Mike L
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I’ll trade you my umbrella for your track press. Then you’ll have shade and won’t get all sweaty doing track work! Don’t answer now, just give it some thought.
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Looking HARD at purchasing a 100T portable track pin press......anybody use one and have thoughts??
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Monkeywithawrench
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And its cordless!! One of the reviews said the batteries last 2 hours each, which is nice. Now the conundrum................buy this and have more different batteries. I use Milwaukee and have a plethora of those. My wife likes to go out and buy cordless things..........we have some Dewalt cordless tools (small shop vac, a brad nailer, and somethine else). Then she bought some green cordless hedge trimmer. Sent that back and got a milwaukee. Just seems we have bunch of different cordless tools that take different batteries and then some of the batteries get crap run time and there is only one.
You'd need to rig up a way for the bucket and fan to hang off the crane. Reading the reviews, people seem to love them.
And then my other thoughts are............here in New England, we really only get a week or 2 of the really HOT icky weather..........do I really need it?? Or just suffer through with the fan and Mikes umbrella I'm going to steal??LOL
Its like when we get the artic vortex.............you just layer up and suffer through. Then when it warms up to 20F after a week you feel like its spring time. I've got a couple of torpedo heaters in ready reserve for those days. You get the calls that "It won't start......." Jumper cables on the batteries, blasting heat underneath............usually fires up after 30 minutes or so of defrost. Those just sit all year, take up space, collect dust, get in the way..........LOL
And its cordless!! One of the reviews said the batteries last 2 hours each, which is nice. Now the conundrum................buy this and have more different batteries. I use Milwaukee and have a plethora of those. My wife likes to go out and buy cordless things..........we have some Dewalt cordless tools (small shop vac, a brad nailer, and somethine else). Then she bought some green cordless hedge trimmer. Sent that back and got a milwaukee. Just seems we have bunch of different cordless tools that take different batteries and then some of the batteries get crap run time and there is only one.
You'd need to rig up a way for the bucket and fan to hang off the crane. Reading the reviews, people seem to love them.
And then my other thoughts are............here in New England, we really only get a week or 2 of the really HOT icky weather..........do I really need it?? Or just suffer through with the fan and Mikes umbrella I'm going to steal??LOL
Its like when we get the artic vortex.............you just layer up and suffer through. Then when it warms up to 20F after a week you feel like its spring time. I've got a couple of torpedo heaters in ready reserve for those days. You get the calls that "It won't start......." Jumper cables on the batteries, blasting heat underneath............usually fires up after 30 minutes or so of defrost. Those just sit all year, take up space, collect dust, get in the way..........LOL
I bet if you look on EBay you can find an adapter to adapt your Milwaukee batteries to the Kobalt tools
and for us it’s a few months of hot nasty weather but balanced by a usually mild winter so fans and shade are a must down here. Some of our field mechanics use Pipeliners Cloud umbrellas.
1693TA
Senior Member
The misters work well but make bare steel rust fast.
Monkeywithawrench
Senior Member
We don't need no stinking umbrella!!LOL
My umbrella........
My umbrella........
Bizon BPT
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digger doug
Senior Member
What size are those threaded rods ?
Bizon BPT
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М 36 strength grade 14.9 + special nuts.
1693TA
Senior Member
I used one of the "Bison" pin presses to remove a really stuck kin pin in a truck axle. A bit heavy to manhandle but was manageable with a helper to set up. I made a round adapter for the pin to push through mating to the spindle lower arm and once set up, the pin let go rather suddenly with near 25 tons against it.
If looking for something easy to setup and simple to use, this is one to consider. I have no affiliation at all but have used the product and only relaying my experience(s). I've also used the same press to break a track on a D5B tractor and is was the same experience; good.
If looking for something easy to setup and simple to use, this is one to consider. I have no affiliation at all but have used the product and only relaying my experience(s). I've also used the same press to break a track on a D5B tractor and is was the same experience; good.
Monkeywithawrench
Senior Member
So I've used the press only 3 times on smaller machines. This picture is from me using it on a CAT 312 with front blade. Customer had me take a link out because his track adjuster wouldn't tighten up the chain anymore. The bushings are all worn down to the pins. He just wants the low buck option to remedy it. Sooooo..............the customer is always right.........right??
So I've used it on the 312, 315, and 316. It fits between the blade just fine (I was worried about that). So compared to the old way of doing it.........BFH.......torch to take out old pin, etc. This was the cats ass!!! First time I used it I was very excited, to say the least; compared to the old way. Old way I would have worn out, sore, probably bleeding from a few spots, burned at least once, frustrated, sore (yes..more sore than sore), tired, and profanities galore flying from my mouth while I questioned (once again) my life choices.
My first couple of tries I had a hard time keeping the frame lined up on the track keeping the driving pin pushing straight. The receiver bushing would want to move off the link and twist the frame. I think the press went up to 5-6k psi on the initial push before breaking the pin free. The pin had been wearing on the lower track guides so it was a bit mushroomed maybe on the end?? On the list of things to do is get a pressure gauge that records (marking needle) the max pressure. I can't remember what they call them.........I have some for 3k psi for setting relief valves.
Putting the new pin into the links I chose a driving pin holder that was just about the size of the new chain pin. Inserted the new pin into the holder and started into the link with that. After that bottomed out, I put the the flat face tooling onto the ram and finished it that way. I worked out.
So all in all.............I like it. Basically the first one I've used and owned. Only watched and helped with a tie rod unit. I'll equate it with not having a crane for years and then getting a truck that has one...........how did I FUNCTION without it!! I think I like the rigidity of the frame for holding it in place compared to the tie rod unit. BUT you can always take up the nuts on the tie rods or back them off to adjust the ram position. The framed unit you need to wait while you run the ram out or back in............think after you get the pin popped out.........takes a while to get the ram stroked back in to pull the C frame out.
I think I have some track work this winter on a 336 and a 329. That will be a good test. The bigger chain will probably make things go smoother.
My buddy ended up picking up a WTC 150T unit a few weeks ago. This is a tie rod unit. Takes the same tooling as the 100T unit (I think.....just from looking at it). It was one of those right place, right time, right person deals. Picked it up for $2500 with alot of the tooling. That's a big ram on that thing!!
hosspuller
Senior Member
I was wondering the same thing. What does one call those gauges? This is what I found ...
"...A "Peak" or "Max Pressure" indicator can be added to many gauges to indicate the maximum pressure or temperature reached in the system.
This additional indicator will stay at the maximum reading until reset by customer when desired by using the supplied tool.
The tool can either remain on the gauge or be removed to prevent tampering or accidental resetting.
This type of additional indicator is known by many other names such as "Follower Pointer", "Drag Pointer",
"Tell-Tale Pointer" or "Slave Pointer".
Available built to order in nominal diameters 63/100/150mm and normally supplied dry (without glycerine).
Glycerine filled is an option on the 100mm diameter only at additional cost."
From this site...
http://modusgauges.com/special-purpose-instruments/peak-/-max-pressure-gauges/cat_29.html#:~:text=A "Peak" or "Max Pressure" indicator,or temperature reached in the system.&text=A "Peak" or "Max,reached in the system.&text=or "Max Pressure" indicator,or temperature reached in
Monkeywithawrench
Senior Member
So one flaw with the unit............and its a minor one.
This attaches to the ram. A bushing goes into this to hold the proper driving pin. This tiny delicate little screw gets screwed against the pin to hold it in place. See pic below....................
So this is a pic of the pin bushing inserted into the receiver. Note the hole inside the bushing for the delicate little screw to go through. Guess what happened to that delicate little screw??
Folded, bent, mutilated and mushroomed!! The hole in the bushing will accept a 1/4-20 bolt. Or maybe drill and tap to a 5/16th?? Silly idea to put such a delicate little screw in there.
Anyway...........the cap screw wouldn't come out because the end got bent and threads deformed. Heated the **** out of it and tried running in and out to straighten it and get the screw out so I could put a bushing in to start the new chain pin into the link. The screw snapped and I ended up drilling it out. Destroyed 2 of my precious Vortex drill bits in the process. So I haven't modified it yet.............trying to take advantage of the 70F days we're having.............while getting rusty plow trucks ready to do battle.
So this is my only beef ................other than THE **** JOB OF QC THOSE CLOWNS AT WTC DID regarding this unit.
Funny, but I wrote those clowns at WTC a very long letter, with photo documentation; detailing their failings regarding QC, fit, finish, and torque of the fasteners (Let us not forget the lack of mentioning the relief valve nor setting of said relief valve in documentation provided) and I never heard back from them. One would expect, maybe; a reply of 'Thanks for bringing this to our attention.' at the very least............apparently not. Probably just another case of 'We don't care, we have your money now.........' alot of that going around lately, it seems.
This attaches to the ram. A bushing goes into this to hold the proper driving pin. This tiny delicate little screw gets screwed against the pin to hold it in place. See pic below....................
So this is a pic of the pin bushing inserted into the receiver. Note the hole inside the bushing for the delicate little screw to go through. Guess what happened to that delicate little screw??
Folded, bent, mutilated and mushroomed!! The hole in the bushing will accept a 1/4-20 bolt. Or maybe drill and tap to a 5/16th?? Silly idea to put such a delicate little screw in there.
Anyway...........the cap screw wouldn't come out because the end got bent and threads deformed. Heated the **** out of it and tried running in and out to straighten it and get the screw out so I could put a bushing in to start the new chain pin into the link. The screw snapped and I ended up drilling it out. Destroyed 2 of my precious Vortex drill bits in the process. So I haven't modified it yet.............trying to take advantage of the 70F days we're having.............while getting rusty plow trucks ready to do battle.
So this is my only beef ................other than THE **** JOB OF QC THOSE CLOWNS AT WTC DID regarding this unit.
Funny, but I wrote those clowns at WTC a very long letter, with photo documentation; detailing their failings regarding QC, fit, finish, and torque of the fasteners (Let us not forget the lack of mentioning the relief valve nor setting of said relief valve in documentation provided) and I never heard back from them. One would expect, maybe; a reply of 'Thanks for bringing this to our attention.' at the very least............apparently not. Probably just another case of 'We don't care, we have your money now.........' alot of that going around lately, it seems.
Monkeywithawrench
Senior Member
NICE!! I just did a quick search on the Winters website.............no joy. I'm going to have to dig up a gauge out of the truck. I'm pretty sure they are Winters gauges that I have. I'll look tomorrow.
Thank you for digging that up!! I appreciate that
Yes those are puny. Maybe once you got that out and threads clean you can replace with an Allen set screw so it's not in the way?? Also they make an adjustable 2 way chain to hold those pin presses. I'm not sure of the make or P/n but I'll try to get a picture of it tomorrow for you. It's very handy for quick adjustment for tilt instead of your come a long. With that being a double acting cylinder does it really take that long to retract? I'm assuming you are using a 110v pump not a hand pump...
Monkeywithawrench
Senior Member
Wow..........I can't think tonight...............just had to look up who makes the pump I have. I use an Enerpac air/hydraulic pump.........not electric. Pump for double acting cylinder...............slow............but have you ever had the wonderful fight with GFCI's on electric units??? I prefer the air instead of dealing with those GFCI's, thank you very much. Might be a little slower............but they work all the damn time.
No I haven't ran into those kind of troubles with one yet. I've used this style pump many times in different applications and my only troubles have been only a leaking pump. They are expensive right at $3,000 but they are quick!
Monkeywithawrench
Senior Member
So is there a locking feature on the other side of the block?? Keep it from see sawing back and forth if you pressed down on the end of it?? I kind of like the positive locking action of the come along. I can see me tripping or stumbling and reaching for the end of the press and WHAM!! bad things happen..............blood, cussing, fussing, more questions about life's choices, etc. LOL
Lol yes It's positive both ways!