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Hallback

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Joined
Jun 1, 2011
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2,306
Location
Aberdeen Wa.
Occupation
Gyppo tower logger
A choker setter didn't show up Wednesday another one did not show up today and I have had a processor operator out all week on medical as he is just deteriorating. I'm not sure about every other industry but I could guess that they're all in the same boat.
 

Don.S

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 28, 2016
Messages
397
Location
Montreal Canada
We had a great team working last year and this year. Very few are still there and the boss complains all the time about how no one wants to work anymore and everyone is lazy because after 6:30am to 5:00pm everyone wants to go home. Interesting how everyone who quit had the same reason can you guess what it was? The boss. I know this is not the case everywhere but i find it funny how my boss does not understand that you can not always go yelling and blowing your top over a small accident if you want to keep employees around.
 

Don.S

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Mar 28, 2016
Messages
397
Location
Montreal Canada
Where i use to work i had the best boss i could ever ask for. I had to leave because i could not deal with the other idiots he had to keep around due to lack of workers. Its rough ride been a employer these days.
 

DMiller

Senior Member
Joined
Feb 21, 2010
Messages
16,421
Location
Hermann, Missouri
Occupation
Cheap "old" Geezer
Only issue is bene’s, most companies will flaunt same wallet money as a Union yet draw a fine line as to expensing much for benefits.

Twin plant to one I worked is in RTW state, have Union and Non working side by side so had to placate the Non Union with same benefit levels as Union, gain is negligible except during a strike when No can enter at a different gate than one allowed for pickets.

Some animosity among employees but not too rough. Only difference is Non Union employees have nothing for protections as to release or fired or departments contracted out as opposed to Union members, also no grievance except thru State offices that hang tough with the employer.

Worked both sides of aisle, Teamsters, Machinists and Aerospace, Operating Engineers, Electrical Workers. Been Non and got screwed on multiple occasion with no potential to fight it. Unions losing strength as newbies come in and more willing to give stuff away to save wage levels and raises even as the financial burdens shift into those dollars away from Benefits pages.
 

nowing75

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Joined
Aug 5, 2009
Messages
898
Location
coatesville indiana
I worked union for united airlines.got screwed by union 2 times. Way to many lazy people there. Place I work for treats me great and have Been growing for the last 19 years I have worked for them. Probably not as good of Benifits as I I went back to united but are very close. Plus unions want you to vote left. From what I have read in this forum I feel very lucky to have the job I have.
 

barrelroll

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Joined
Mar 16, 2016
Messages
90
Location
Alaska
Occupation
Mill Mechanic
Where I work the joke is it's almost impossible to get fired, there's no accountability to preform to your pay level or do your job. We've had a maintenance planner who knows this and has done a **** poor job. You give him part numbers and he doesn't order parts. He scheduled 4 jobs last hitch we didn't have parts to complete just to fill up the schedule to meet some corporate compliance thing. Work orders written to the wrong piece of equipment or parts ordered against a completely wrong work order are the norm. I was pointing out the struggles we were facing to his boss (my boss's boss) hoping maybe they'd get on him about actually doing his job. It seemed like management could care less and wasn't going to do anything about it.

The next day my boss's boss tracked me down and dragged me to the principal's office. I figured I was getting an ass chewing, turns out the planner quit and they want me to take his job. The catch it's a pay cut, you work more days a year working 4 on 3 off compared to my current 14 on 14 off, and you have to spend 4 hours a day on buses and a boat commuting (I currently live in the mine camp and do the commute once a month). I'm going to apply though the odds of an offer worth accepting aren't good. The pay and commute hasn't attracted someone worth a darn previously. I guess they think I have sucker written on my forehead and know I'm fed up enough with the previous guys job that I'd do a decent job. So far it's not real enticing to hang up my tools.
 

DMiller

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Hermann, Missouri
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Cheap "old" Geezer
Never have understood a company offering less income for more stress, more hours at salary, to those on the floor they consider good consideration to run a shop. Seems the lay of the land for most where I tried it once but did not stay. Need is incentivize to make palatable for the candidate or they get what pay for.
 

Truck Shop

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Dec 7, 2015
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Location
WWW.
It's called the house of cubical rat disconnect. Everyday it just gets worse in every
business across the country. Where I work it's garbage in garbage out, not my problem,
no one told me that, first I knew about that, did you tell so and so are the common
reply's. Everyone of them is a Schultz from Hogan's Hero's. {I know nothing}------
that's obvious.

A follow up on reply I made in Spud's thread about one of our trucks he saw.
I made a comment about the new hire driver being short a brick or two.
I came to work one Saturday a couple of weeks ago to find this car parked in our
yard and someone sleeping on the ground next to it at 5 am.
The company put him up in a motel-he got kicked out for smoking in the room,
cost the company a extra $250 because of that. He feel asleep during the interview,
had to have a sleep test. He's made two trips in two weeks, he got back last Friday
went downtown started hitting on a woman in a tavern and her boy friend hit him
with a golf club. He has been hold up in truck 487 setting in the yard since the weekend
with staples in his scalp, 487 is homeless shelter now. Turns out the HR person that
interviewed him finally checked him out, as it turns out he is as I thought-----------
short a brick or two--an ex cage fighter. Obviously he wasn't very good at it.
The company is in the process of terminating him--in the process mind you.

You can't make this Sh!t up. What in the hell is the world coming to
 

JD955SC

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Joined
Mar 13, 2011
Messages
1,349
Location
The South
It's called the house of cubical rat disconnect. Everyday it just gets worse in every
business across the country. Where I work it's garbage in garbage out, not my problem,
no one told me that, first I knew about that, did you tell so and so are the common
reply's. Everyone of them is a Schultz from Hogan's Hero's. {I know nothing}------
that's obvious.

A follow up on reply I made in Spud's thread about one of our trucks he saw.
I made a comment about the new hire driver being short a brick or two.
I came to work one Saturday a couple of weeks ago to find this car parked in our
yard and someone sleeping on the ground next to it at 5 am.
The company put him up in a motel-he got kicked out for smoking in the room,
cost the company a extra $250 because of that. He feel asleep during the interview,
had to have a sleep test. He's made two trips in two weeks, he got back last Friday
went downtown started hitting on a woman in a tavern and her boy friend hit him
with a golf club. He has been hold up in truck 487 setting in the yard since the weekend
with staples in his scalp, 487 is homeless shelter now. Turns out the HR person that
interviewed him finally checked him out, as it turns out he is as I thought-----------
short a brick or two--an ex cage fighter.
Obviously he wasn't very good at it.
The company is in the process of terminating him--in the process mind you.

You can't make this Sh!t up. What in the hell is the world coming to

HR is truly a haven for useless office people.
 

barrelroll

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 16, 2016
Messages
90
Location
Alaska
Occupation
Mill Mechanic
Never have understood a company offering less income for more stress, more hours at salary, to those on the floor they consider good consideration to run a shop. Seems the lay of the land for most where I tried it once but did not stay. Need is incentivize to make palatable for the candidate or they get what pay for.

It doesn't make sense to me. I work in a pretty decent paying industry for the hourly guys. Management likes to use the you have to pay your dues and it's a gateway into management sales pitch. They won't throw out a number without an offer letter though it could be a $40-60k a year pay cut. I like the work, love the lifestyle it affords me.
 

barrelroll

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Joined
Mar 16, 2016
Messages
90
Location
Alaska
Occupation
Mill Mechanic
And Seasick when you arrive.

Yep, it's only November, there's an "inside route" to work when seas pick up though it can still be a paint shaker and involves slipping and sliding down a beach to get on the crew boat.

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My last gig was 28-on/28-off. I used to call it part-time work for full time money........

I think you were in the mining industry as well. The schedule is a big perk of the job in my book. They want me to give up the 14/14 for a 4 on/ 3 off
 
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