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Seems like they should be able to get the second crane off the road with a cutting torch.

Hopefully, the tele cylinder collapse didn't send metal into the hyd system so that the machine will still run. Then you could grab the remnants of the boom with a third crane, cut off the damaged two sections, swing around and drop weights, and then use the third crane to pull the weights. Put the second crane back on its tires with the boom in the rest and drive it home, and wait for liebherr to build you some new sections.

Then hopefully split the burnt one apart and get it loaded on two or three trucks. You would think that even with a retired foreman, there should be some guys left that know what they are doing.
 

Hank R

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I am 80% sure nothing happened to day as I checked drive BC for road closers etc and 3 times Highway 3 was open.
 

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Hopefully, the tele cylinder collapse didn't send metal into the hyd system so that the machine will still run. Then you could grab the remnants of the boom with a third crane, cut off the damaged two sections, swing around and drop weights, and then use the third crane to pull the weights. Put the second crane back on its tires with the boom in the rest and drive it home, and wait for liebherr to build you some new sections.

Then hopefully split the burnt one apart and get it loaded on two or three trucks. You would think that even with a retired foreman, there should be some guys left that know what they are doing.
that is optimistic IMO. They were stupid enough to try and pick and set it, what was clearly a job for the recovery company. I can't see them having grown an extra brain cell now.
Sorry if I sound callous but most things are best left for the pros.
 

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When it's burnt by the side of the highway it's just another truck just a heavy one. Let the pros with the recovery rigs take care of it.
They would rotate out of there a little bit if needed, and then slide it on something like a big landoll.
When I was working on the river job in Puyallup, the drillers borrowed our 4100 and overcentered it, trying to pull on a 3-ft can that they should have kept vibrating. They got a pro out of California to come recover that crane.
He brought in sicklesteel with a 300 ton truck crane and they laid it down without any further damage, or damage to the railway or highway bridges on either side of us.
The insurance paid for that, and it went with no drama.
 
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John C.

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The fact that they tried to recover it themselves seems to preclude that they had enough insurance coverage in the first place.
 

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I’ve never seen a tow truck that could tow that burnt crane without having someone steering it. All those at’s have steering pumps that are ground driven. Every time I’ve seen a 150t crane or bigger towed it’s just pulled by the wrecker. Plug air in from the tow truck for your brakes and put someone in the cab to steer it. You are not putting that crane behind a tow truck in that shape and moving it. Way simpler to bring in a crane big enough to set it on a lowboy and haul it out.

At least that’s exactly what I’d have done. The bigger crane was simply configured wrong. Aside from that IMO they had the right idea.

I really don’t know what good a tow truck will do you.
 

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There is no tow truck that can raise it and tow it, same with some mixers and
garbage trucks. There flat towed. Done all the time. But it can be winched on
to road and moved to a better location.
 

Knepptune

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That’s true. I think they’ll need a crane to get it loaded onto something anyway so why not just do it there?

I don’t know why they wouldn’t pull the boom, haul that out and then pick the rest up and set it on a trailer. Which they may have been trying to do that.

I’m not a towing guy but I know you have a lot better luck with cranes if you configure the boom and lmi correctly.
 

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In this state-the state wants the road clear. After that it's the owners problem, do loading in a area
other than the roadway. In Canada maybe they allow that, but here it's get the junk, garbage or
wreck cleaned up asap. An experienced tow operator could look it over and have it done in no time,
because we deal with those scenarios all the time.
 

Kiwi-truckwit

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Recovery isn't going too well.

Every liebherr has different lifting charts for which sections of boom you have out. Any heavy picking at short radius with full counterweights- your best chart is with the big sections out- they are stronger. A lot of times its even better if the big sections are at 46%.

Looks to me like he had the tip two sections at 100% - which would be a much weaker configuration.



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Whoever was pulling those levers had absolutely no business sitting in that crane.
Obviously doesn't understand the concept of differing boom configurations, doesn't know how to read a load chart, and would've had to override the LMI in order to go well past the structural capacity.
What a cluster!
 

Hank R

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Hank--in this case is the crane owner responsible for traffic control?

From what I found out this morning is the first crane that caught fire is covered by ICBC insurance car truck insurance here in BC. The recovery crane was was working a job so the crane company insurance company is looking after that crane, the gray area is is the cost of traffic control as highway is down to single lane. I know this does not help much.

Truck Shop you should come up for a quick road trip only 1/2 hr from boarder crossing on 97.
 

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