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ISO recomendations on a Dozer blade for CTL

azvacs

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Are the 35 homes full time residences, vacation homes or combination?
It has a magnet on the back and I stick it to the right side of my cab just above the joystick for the loader/bucket and it's actually handier to use then I expected. I figured I'd hate it and end up ordering the SS Genius control setup but it's not bad at all.

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Are the 35 homes full time residences, vacation homes or combination?
A combination of full time and part time.
 

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Are the 35 homes full time residences, vacation homes or combination?
I'm thinking I should just look into renting a small motor grader or dozer and doing it that way for the initial dirt work. To bring the material back to the center. Probably no way to get everyone on board with paying someone to bring in that much bedding material and do the work on a Mile long road. I dont mind maintaining it at no charge because I'm using it but the equip to maintain it would be mine. That's why I was looking for recomendations without breaking the bank.
 
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G..G..G..Granville.........!! Fetch your cloth.
I'm thinking I should just look into renting a small motor grader or dozer and doing it that way for the initial dirt work.
If you go that way either machine should be equipped with a ripper/scarifier so that wherever you want to bring material from it can be loosened up first. It would also allow you to identify larger material that you don't want in the road surface and separate it out.
When I saw that photo you posted earlier my first thought was you need one of these, especially the hook on the back.........

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If you go that way either machine should be equipped with a ripper/scarifier so that wherever you want to bring material from it can be loosened up first. It would also allow you to identify larger material that you don't want in the road surface and separate it out.
When I saw that photo you posted earlier my first thought was you need one of these, especially the hook on the back.........

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Man, that would be nice but almost impossible to maneuver on this single track road, plus very expensive to rent. Trying not to break the bank, in case the cost falls on me only. (Then, I’d just be doing the road up to my place) I’ll try and post more pics of the road conditions later this week. We’ve had well over 15” of rain this season. (Past 2 months) so the road bed needs to be very durable. There are spots with 12” ruts.
 

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They do articulate in the middle you know........ I've been watching this guy's channel for a while now. He's good at finding abandoned stuff and fixing it up.

Is that Marty T ? Very enjoyable to watch
 

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If your sinking 12" into the road, your going to need some pit run (6" minus or so) and or Geo Textile over the worst parts. Reshaping with the same trash the road was forged out of isn't going to solve your issues permanently. Grading it with a crown so the water sheds will certainly help that but it looks to me like you don't have very good material to build a road out of.
 

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Didn’t sink into the road. Rain cut into it.
 

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My feeling would be this. You already have the machine, if you’re dead set on doing the work yourself, either buy a toothed HEAVY DUTY bucket that’s a few inches wider than the machine OR buy a tooth bar that slips onto your existing bucket. Then start pulling the material back in sections at a time. The key to it will be compacting it all as you go, so you will need a vibratory roller or a good size plate compactor. The key to it is to get the sides lower than the middle and the inside/outside corners built up/cut down low enough to let the water shed off the sides. If you don’t have enough existing material you will need to import road base to get the drive graded properly. There’s no doubt this is going to cost some money to get back into shape, on a shared road like this it becomes a nightmare getting everyone to agree to a price and even harder to get them to pay. The biggest problem I see is that any good material has been pushed/washed off the road so it looks like you’ll be trying to grade round rocks from softball size to bowling ball size. Why should you have to buy attachments and rent equipment to repair a road that’s shared by 35 others? I’ll answer, probably because it bugs the crap out of you that no one else will do it? Still doesn’t mean you should foot the bill. What happens if your machine breaks while doing it, who pays for that?
 

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My feeling would be this. You already have the machine, if you’re dead set on doing the work yourself, either buy a toothed HEAVY DUTY bucket that’s a few inches wider than the machine OR buy a tooth bar that slips onto your existing bucket. Then start pulling the material back in sections at a time. The key to it will be compacting it all as you go, so you will need a vibratory roller or a good size plate compactor. The key to it is to get the sides lower than the middle and the inside/outside corners built up/cut down low enough to let the water shed off the sides. If you don’t have enough existing material you will need to import road base to get the drive graded properly. There’s no doubt this is going to cost some money to get back into shape, on a shared road like this it becomes a nightmare getting everyone to agree to a price and even harder to get them to pay. The biggest problem I see is that any good material has been pushed/washed off the road so it looks like you’ll be trying to grade round rocks from softball size to bowling ball size. Why should you have to buy attachments and rent equipment to repair a road that’s shared by 35 others? I’ll answer, probably because it bugs the crap out of you that no one else will do it? Still doesn’t mean you should foot the bill. What happens if your machine breaks while doing it, who pays for that?
You are dead right, it bugs the crap out of me and I’m trying to keep the rain on the road and not flowing onto my property, washing my materials away. So I’ll start with my section and see if it spurs interest in taking it further and any financial help.
 

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Are the 35 homes full time residences, vacation homes or combination?
It’s a combination. A couple of full timers and the rest are vacation homes. It’s going to be bad when the snow melts. Road took a beating this winter. Only way to get it cleared was a loader and that really tore up the road bed. Snow is piled 6’-8’ in places. Road is going to need some serious help this year.
 

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I would imagine the ruts from run off will be epic. The road I am sure really needs to rebuilt correctly.

https://interpro.wisc.edu/tic/wp-co...avel-Roads-Construction-Maintenance-Guide.pdf

I found this which I thought did a great job of explaining it all. Having drainage cut on both sides of the road with culverts as needed to prevent washing out would likely help. The link shows a road that looks very similar to your situation and how to fix it.
 

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Great information. Thank you
 
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