Nige
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Does anyone have an idea what other systems are available on the market for a 143H Motor Grader other than Cat Accugrade.?
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143H Slope Control Systems
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Queenslander
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I believe that Cat Accugrade and Trimble are virtually the same product, both marketed by Sitech.
Our 140H had Topcon System 5 on it when we bought it, only 2D but upgradable to 3D etc.
The Topcon has been ok without being brilliant.
I recall pricing both brands in the past and Trimble were very competitive.
Our 140H had Topcon System 5 on it when we bought it, only 2D but upgradable to 3D etc.
The Topcon has been ok without being brilliant.
I recall pricing both brands in the past and Trimble were very competitive.
Nige
Senior Member
Thanks for the replies gents. AFAIK the Cat Accugrade system is supplied by Trimble.
Did you price it via the Cat dealer or direct with Trimble.?
Queenslander
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Through Trimble.
I assume the Cat version is a little pricey?
I assume the Cat version is a little pricey?
Nige
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Dunno - haven’t asked yet.
I’m asking on here on behalf of the owner of the machine who is not a native English speaker. I was just trying to find out what options were out there to ensure that all the bases were covered when it came to getting quotes for a system.
Nige
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Does anyone know if any of the above-mentioned system manufacturers offer used or reconditioned systems.?
An internet search has only revealed Topcon & Trimble. Are there any other manufacturers out there.?
An internet search has only revealed Topcon & Trimble. Are there any other manufacturers out there.?
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...IQFnoECAcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw34vS8azL00lJm6Rlr1jl9U
I think these run on both US and Russian satellites where Trimble and Topcon only use US satellites which get turned off at times mostly when you need them the most. That was years ago so things may have changed since then.
I think these run on both US and Russian satellites where Trimble and Topcon only use US satellites which get turned off at times mostly when you need them the most. That was years ago so things may have changed since then.
John C.
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When I was chasing machine trades for the Cat dealer the issue with GPS grade systems was technological obsolescence. Big changes, read "improvements" came out about every three years making the installed systems orphans in short order. If the systems worked, the owners kept them and had them installed on the new machines. Most of the time the mounting hardware was on the machine but the sensors and black boxes were either out in a pile or stored in an office closet somewhere. I've seen them come up on Ritchie Bros. auctions and you can find sold prices if you use the brand names for your search terms. I always told the potential customers that we were not interested in used systems and didn't even consider them in the value of the machine unless they were installed and working.
Nige
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Thanks for that John. I was also thinking that a used system would likely be far more trouble than any potential price saving that buying it attracted.
Nige
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John C.
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The other system that showed up at times around here was built by Leica. They were the ones who used the Russian system as well as the US system.
https://shop.leica-geosystems.com
https://shop.leica-geosystems.com
Queenslander
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As with any product, it may come down to how well it is supported.
Although I’ve had some issues with the Topcon gear, I can’t complain about the dealer.
They will travel from the big smoke out to here without charging an arm and a leg.
Although I’ve had some issues with the Topcon gear, I can’t complain about the dealer.
They will travel from the big smoke out to here without charging an arm and a leg.
Nige
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That appears to be the same system as the one Tones linked above John.
So far we have Trimble, Topcon, & Leica. Any more offers.?
I use a Trimble WM-Drain on terraces.
It requires a base station.
The one I use
It surveys elevation, but only in a single line.
Then you can change the cut/fill of that line in the design tab.
The gps will hold that grade following the line you surveyed and will hold grade on each side of the line a couple hundred feet wide or more out.
It will also upload some plans for 3d, but they had to convert the file for me. Then I used the surveyors benchmark and it all lined up pretty good. Have only done that once though.
It requires a base station.
The one I use
Then you can change the cut/fill of that line in the design tab.
The gps will hold that grade following the line you surveyed and will hold grade on each side of the line a couple hundred feet wide or more out.
It will also upload some plans for 3d, but they had to convert the file for me. Then I used the surveyors benchmark and it all lined up pretty good. Have only done that once though.
There is a German company called Moba. They have a dealer local to me selling their systems. I have no personal experience with them so can't say if they're any good or not, but they seem to be available worldwide.
https://mobile-automation.eu/
https://mobile-automation.eu/
pedrocar
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the older cross slope unit