mks
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Was the hose or the fuel more expensive?
I guess 300 in fuel.
I guess 300 in fuel.
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Truck Shop
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mks
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Thanks for the reality check TS.
muddog1975
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Hahaha...
muddog1975
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Windshield time is great when it's this hot and humid428 miles today for one hose replacement. The good news was I found a Napa nearby that was able to make the oring face hose replacement. Just this one small blow in the hose, inside the abrasion cover with no abrasions, cracks, stretches or bends.
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This hose was over 9 feet long and ran through multiple welded loom rings up to a valve in the upper front frame. It sucked but I've had a lot worse.
Welder Dave
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Back in the 80's when I did my apprenticeship they didn't fool around. Too many on the waiting kist to get in. They were running 3 shifts and had to play around with times and classrooms to fit them all in. You miss more than 2 days or are late more than twice you're gone. Worked with 1 idiot who got kicked out of 1st year 3 times.
When i was writing an apprenticeship exam with about 100 other people, one guy was absolutely hammered. The guys running the exam escorted him out. He was loud and disruptive as soon as he sat down. Apparently it was his 3rd attempt. He was ok until the night before the final exam and then he couldn’t handle the pressure and would start drinking heavily. The guy who came back and collected his exam off the desk said that, as of then, he was permanently booted out of the apprenticeship program. I couldn’t believe somebody could be so stupid once or twice, let alone 3 times
DMiller
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Not the same school anymore as entered the US Education support finance theme, went to David Ranken Trade School in 75/76, was a crash course just to get young capables' into the market. Basics on Mechanical, electrical, hydraulic, testing and major repairs with touches on failure determinations and typical failure causes, touched on welding and machining principles. Diesel/Gas Engines/Gear Train and Chassis. 10 Months, class started with 33, ended with 15 graduating, 11 placed initially and four changed careers right off.
For a HS Drop out I was number Two in GPA at graduation. As of 1987, the school got into finance woes, bought into Fed money, became a worthless degree program school directly after. My course went to Two Years, with more academia than skills base teaching where the school now cannot achieve enough entrants.
For a HS Drop out I was number Two in GPA at graduation. As of 1987, the school got into finance woes, bought into Fed money, became a worthless degree program school directly after. My course went to Two Years, with more academia than skills base teaching where the school now cannot achieve enough entrants.
When i went to votech school they told us dont miss alot of school when you try to get a job they will be looking. I enjoyed going i wonder how many went into the trade. The guys in my class didnt live close to me and i didnt keep track of them but at the bank i use one of the tellers had the same last name. I ask her if she was related to a guy Bruce yes she had a brother inlaw Bruce . I ask about him she said he had a repair shop in the city. When she said he had a shop i said no not the same guy because about every day he told me he didnt like this kind of stuff and didnt plan on ever getting into it. She told me some more and yes it is the same Bruce. I bet out of the 40 i went to school with maybe 5 went into the trade.
Truck Shop
Senior Member
Sounds like WWCC to the tee.
DMiller
Senior Member
They fall into same money pit of despair?
Several trades schools have gone this route ending as failures. Linn State Tech or Mo State Tech ‘College’ as named now is fairing no better.
Several trades schools have gone this route ending as failures. Linn State Tech or Mo State Tech ‘College’ as named now is fairing no better.
The school district we lived in in Texas, has a really nice trade school facility. more students are taking classes there every year, and they are adding programs. Our son went through their auto technology program. If it had not been for that program, I am not sure he would have made it till graduation. One of the Dallas Community colleges was offering a 2 year degree in auto technology, and had a great shop program. He went there, worked for a couple of auto dealerships, and for the last 8 years, has been employed by the local Cat dealer, in their emergency generator division. Doing really well, and it is all because he got great instruction in the trade school programs. More schools need to be offering various trade school programs. You can make a LOT more money in the various trades than you can working at Starbucks or McDonalds, or some computer related job.
Jeff
Jeff
1466IH
Senior Member
Had a couple friends that went to linn for fabick. Said they learned more in a summer working at a small mom and pop shop than in 2 years at school.
DMiller
Senior Member
No Doubt
the schools get a kickback for every student they send to a four year university. That’s why up until very recently most acted like going to tech school or into the trades made the graduate a leper.
Truck Shop
Senior Member
WWCC over spent then when the covid issue arose they had to make deeper cuts. Several trade courses
along with the CDL driving school were axed. Most of it was about tuition/and state funding.
When I was on the board [a long ways back and a short time] they were proud to announce 3 graduating
out of a class of 28. That's when I decided I was wasting my time there.
I hired two from the WWCC diesel program, one couldn't read a micrometer the other had no hands on
experience with a simple task of rebuilding a wheel end including brakes.
Neither one could expect to make it in a dealer shop or anywhere else. They had some ability but wasted
time and money going there.
along with the CDL driving school were axed. Most of it was about tuition/and state funding.
When I was on the board [a long ways back and a short time] they were proud to announce 3 graduating
out of a class of 28. That's when I decided I was wasting my time there.
I hired two from the WWCC diesel program, one couldn't read a micrometer the other had no hands on
experience with a simple task of rebuilding a wheel end including brakes.
Neither one could expect to make it in a dealer shop or anywhere else. They had some ability but wasted
time and money going there.
All of this pretty much sums up my experiences with tech school graduates. Even the major dealers here hire them but they don’t last. Last time I talked with the Komatsu dealer shop foreman he told me they may get 3 decent ones out of 50. That’s just **** poor
Welder Dave
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I remember one of the instructors telling the class not to try and cheat on the exams. Apparently there was a student who didn't understand English very well and a friend tried to impersonate him to take the final journeyman exams, NAIT exam as well as the Red Seal exam. When they looked a little closer the person that came to do the exam didn't match the person listed on the student ID card. Different height, different weight, etc. This is a serious offence that could lead to jail time but before they could prosecute the guy, he left the country.
I had a old mechanic tell me going to trade school you will ether not learn much or already know the basics of what they will try to teach you he was about wright but it is kind of like a primer to get you started i would recommend it. I had been welding for several years on my own i went and took some night classes i learned alot there. If i could i would take some more welding classes.