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Early Spring Road Maintenance

Cat 140M AWD

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It’s a mixture of topsoil some clay and gravel it will go to crap when it rains but after it drys and I can rework it it sets up like concrete I plan on putting new gravel on it anyway so not concerned out dirt it’s getting covered up anyway.
 

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Running with a packer makes all the difference in the world On our All American like yours we can run on float normally can add pressure as necessary On the walk and roll and handy hitch packers I set up an adjustable relief and accumulator runs about 400 psi in the ripper cylinder works well normally
 

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Thought you may have been towing a roller, looks really good, a roller makes a big difference with the layout of your road and how well it holds up, there was talk of us getting a roller for our machines, 20 grand for one, you must have lots of room to turn around, does the rollers lift up when your traveling any distance? thanks for sharing the pics
 

Cat 140M AWD

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Thought you may have been towing a roller, looks really good, a roller makes a big difference with the layout of your road and how well it holds up, there was talk of us getting a roller for our machines, 20 grand for one, you must have lots of room to turn around, does the rollers lift up when your traveling any distance? thanks for sharing the pics


My roller pins right on to my ripper pins on in the big ripper shanks so very portable I just pick it up when I want does make machine a little longer but nice being able to pick up and turn around pretty much anywhere and yes I’ve seen a huge difference on using the roller and not using it
 

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It’s a mixture of topsoil some clay and gravel it will go to crap when it rains but after it drys and I can rework it it sets up like concrete I plan on putting new gravel on it anyway so not concerned out dirt it’s getting covered up anyway.

With a project like that how much gravel do you add?
Is this an every year rebuild or how often?
Do you decide which roads get this rebuild by their condition?
 

Cat 140M AWD

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With a project like that how much gravel do you add?
Is this an every year rebuild or how often?
Do you decide which roads get this rebuild by their condition?


When I do a project like this we put down 3 inches of 3/4 surfacing gravel that around 2100 ton a mile and we pick 4 miles a year to pull shoulders on and put new gravel on ideally once we have shoulders puled in and new gravel on we won’t have to redo that road for 6 years so we just work our way through the township with 4 miles a year.
 

Cat 140M AWD

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Anyone ever used a pull grader like this before for road maintenance?
https://metalcraftscrapers.com/equipment/#grader
Seems pretty slick!
That’s definitely not for gravel road maintenance would flatten your roads out and from what I see no way to put crown in the road that would be useless for me I’d say that designed for a haul road on a big earth moving project I even have my doubts it would work there.
 

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When I do a project like this we put down 3 inches of 3/4 surfacing gravel that around 2100 ton a mile and we pick 4 miles a year to pull shoulders on and put new gravel on ideally once we have shoulders puled in and new gravel on we won’t have to redo that road for 6 years so we just work our way through the township with 4 miles a year.

That would definitely make a good road!!! Using our normal maintenance application it would take me 32 years to put on 2100 ton per mile. If you are doing this every 6 years you are applying 350 ton per year. It would take me 5 years to put on 350 ton per mile.

I'm always amazed at the amount of gravel used in some areas. I'm also amazed at what the budget must be.

My Annual budget is $1,145 per mile to cover everything. In addition I'm given 65 ton of gravel per mile by the State and County.

I can only "dream" of having your budget. :cool:
 

Cat 140M AWD

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That would definitely make a good road!!! Using our normal maintenance application it would take me 32 years to put on 2100 ton per mile. If you are doing this every 6 years you are applying 350 ton per year. It would take me 5 years to put on 350 ton per mile.

I'm always amazed at the amount of gravel used in some areas. I'm also amazed at what the budget must be.

My Annual budget is $1,145 per mile to cover everything. In addition I'm given 65 ton of gravel per mile by the State and County.

I can only "dream" of having your budget. :cool:


I’m pretty spoiled we have a budget of 450,000 to work with but we also have a lot of people living in the township and with that comes lots of traffic I average 300 to 400 vehicles a day so that’s why we put the gravel on we do and the maintenance plan we have.
 

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I’m pretty spoiled we have a budget of 450,000 to work with but we also have a lot of people living in the township and with that comes lots of traffic I average 300 to 400 vehicles a day so that’s why we put the gravel on we do and the maintenance plan we have.
Yep, huge difference. My heaviest traveled road might get 100 a day. My average road is closer to 25 a day.

Another huge difference is weather and soil type. I even have a large variance in soil type within my township.

I really enjoy the pics and stories you guys are posting on this thread. Really shows the differences we all have.
 

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Anyone ever used a pull grader like this before for road maintenance?
https://metalcraftscrapers.com/equipment/#grader
Seems pretty slick!
It claims it can tilt to crown, and I'm sure you could maintain a crown on a gravel road if you have the time to do it exactly when needed. It's not going to cut like a grader or have the flexibility. I see six way pulled grader blades here and there, mostly for third world conditions, or townships with a few paved roads and mostly native dirt roads. It's just going to take too many passes with a pull type like that on hard packed gravel roads.
 

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It claims it can tilt to crown, and I'm sure you could maintain a crown on a gravel road if you have the time to do it exactly when needed. It's not going to cut like a grader or have the flexibility. I see six way pulled grader blades here and there, mostly for third world conditions, or townships with a few paved roads and mostly native dirt roads. It's just going to take too many passes with a pull type like that on hard packed gravel roads.
They use them at the peatmoss plants. I was at one today and crowned up the road. Now for the rest of the summer, they will use the drag. By the time I go back in the fall or next spring, they will need to be crowned up again.
 

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They use them at the peatmoss plants. I was at one today and crowned up the road. Now for the rest of the summer, they will use the drag. By the time I go back in the fall or next spring, they will need to be crowned up again.
I'm not saying they are not useful, it probably depends on your skill, and what you plan to do with it. I've seen guys that can do a lot with a box blade on a tractor.
 

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Peat bog number two in the books, and another rounded cuttin edge to be cut. That road was 9 miles long and about 30 feet wide. Woven geotec under the whole thing. That's a lot of money. They just started harvesting the peat this week, and have put almost 2 million into developing the site. Must be good money in it. Would loved to have had 140's tow behind roller. All this rain probably washed my fines away. That's two down, and one more next Saturday.
 

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They use to have and may still have a peat moss plant in Foxy River on PEI, My buddy was a supervisor there, said most of there product went to Florida, they would lose a tractor ever second year or so to the bog, when he took me on a tour of the plant and grounds it was in Feb, everything was froze, lol, he pointed out the antenna's just barely sticking out of the ground where the lost a tractor, no way to recover them without risking losing the recovery vehicle, not sure if it still happens, that was 30 years ago. great vid
 
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