Demolition pricing help.

Acoals · Apr 13, 2022

suladas said:
Dang that's good money, most expensive house demo i've had is about $13k and it's around that size and has a full basement, and it's $85/ton landfill fees. Most of my work lately is smaller house demos and mostly pays pretty good, but the smaller one's are move in demo and out same day 1 trip jobs. Guys who have to pay driver to drop machine, or hire out moves just can't compete, or if they try there just isn't the money in it. But on many little 800 sq/ft houses with basement and small garage around the $8k mark make around $3-4k in one day so it's good money for me.

I make good money on those in and out, one day demo jobs in my area. We have a lot of 40's era vacation cottages that are all junk now. I drive the hoe to the job, crunch it up, load it out and take the rig home. It's a gravy job for me, but often I run as a solo operation, it isn't as neat and efficient when I have employees doing it.

Shimmy1 · Apr 13, 2022

Acoals said:
it isn't as neat and efficient when I have employees doing it.

Because most employees don't give two actual sh|ts except getting that paycheck every other week.

Shimmy1 · Apr 13, 2022

Shimmy1 said:
Because most employees don't give two actual sh|ts except getting that paycheck every other week.....
AND leaving you hanging at the worst times.

Don.S · Apr 13, 2022

Sounds about what a company is all about also. Making money to pay the bills and pay for the chosen lifestyle. Quit bitching and get over it.

suladas · Apr 13, 2022

Acoals said:
I make good money on those in and out, one day demo jobs in my area. We have a lot of 40's era vacation cottages that are all junk now. I drive the hoe to the job, crunch it up, load it out and take the rig home. It's a gravy job for me, but often I run as a solo operation, it isn't as neat and efficient when I have employees doing it.

Yep. I sub a lot of stuff from demo company and getting even more, employees are a nightmare and they are finding it's better to just sub me the work and not have any worries. There was 2 mobile homes to demo, they tried bidding them what they figured they needed to make money and were told price is way to high and asked me if I could do them at $6k a pop, I happily agreed, I made over $6k on them for 2 days work. Now if it had been an employee doing them wouldn't make near the profit.

suladas · Apr 13, 2022

Yep. I see it all the time with my brother, depending on time of year he has around 20 guys. Baffling part is looking at a piece of equipment of his compared to mine after a years and how badly his get beat up. I'm a patient person but I can't deal with it. Much less stress on my own. Sure there are times I wish I had someone to send to do something I don't want to do, but not having to deal with an employee has far more benefits then drawbacks.

suladas · Apr 13, 2022

Don.S said:
Sounds about what a company is all about also. Making money to pay the bills and pay for the chosen lifestyle. Quit bitching and get over it.

Of course running a company is primarily about money but too many people forget the equipment they use earns them their wage, so not looking after it is very dumb. While not all, many owners if employees are good and making them good money will reward the employee to keep them around. While they will never have the same commitment as an owner, generally speaking the better an employee does will benefit them financially. But when an employee starts out with the attitude of doing the bare minimum to keep their job, they are going to earn the bare minimum pay, and so will have the mentality of why bother? When it's really their performance that's the issue. Being loyal to a company 5, 10 years or whatever means nothing if someone is just doing enough to stay employed, there's a million of those people around.

Probably the most frustrating part is the attitude because someone owns a company money grows on trees and it's endless, or they make SO much money. Meanwhile most employees work 40 hours a week no evenings or weekends, while most owners are working evenings and weekends many many extra hours. For anyone who thinks it's easy i'd say go out and do it yourself and see how easy it is.

aighead · Apr 14, 2022

What is "mob?"

StevenG · Apr 14, 2022

aighead said:
What is "mob?"

Short for mobilization.

aighead · Apr 14, 2022

Cool, thanks, I figured it was something like that but thought it may be m-o-b.

Jimothy · Apr 14, 2022

If you have zero problems that can be done in a day, hard to say what your going to get for an excavator can be the determining factor on this one. Always bring a hammer even if you don’t use it for the love of god bring a hammer. Have a chop saw ready even a grinder is better then nothing. Depending on what’s near by water is a good idea too for dust fire and who knows what else.

It’s a fine line between making money and losing money, have stuff ready or at least lined up in case you need it.

we did a building demo where the building was already gone all that was left was a side walk foundation and a few pipes stubbed out of ground. Four year after building was burnt down… water was still live! And building had 3! 3! 3!? Foundations overlapping each other…

turns out the put the building in the wrong spot twice and rather then rip it out the built off what was already there

should have been done in one or two days depending how they priced it ended up taking 2 weeks

CM1995 · Apr 14, 2022

Jimothy said:
we did a building demo where the building was already gone all that was left was a side walk foundation and a few pipes stubbed out of ground. Four year after building was burnt down… water was still live! And building had 3! 3! 3!? Foundations overlapping each other…

We've demo'd more than one building that had multiple foundations and slab layers. Demo'd a lawyers office to find a quarry tile floor under the concrete slab then a terrazzo floor then finally what appeared to be an asphalt parking lot. The building was remodeled through the years from a parking lot to a retail store, kitchen and then lawyers office all built on top of each other.

Never know what you will find when you take a structure down.

Acoals · Apr 14, 2022

Jimothy said:
And building had 3! 3! 3!? Foundations overlapping each other…

I had one of those last summer, supposedly just a slab on grade, found about 3 feet of concrete under it, looked like 2 or 3 layered foundations. All the house was was a dumpy summer cottage too . . . went from like 3 loads of concrete going out to 8 or something . . . lol

cuttin edge · Apr 15, 2022

We did an old gas station. It was block walls. The owner also had a a sandstone pit behind the station. Go in with the 350 excavator and a couple tandem trucks. The operator tore the building down on a Friday evening, the trucks went down Saturday. Hauled the blocks to the pit. The old floor broke up quite easy, hauled it to the pit as well. Brought sandstone out to backfill the hole, and bury the blocks in the pit, clean everything up, and back to the shop by 3. Easy right. Someone called the environment on the old fella, and we had to go back down and haul the blocks to a proper landfill because of the paint used on the walls when the place was built in the 50s. Cost the old fella 600 bucks a trailer load, plus the cost for us to load it and truck it the hour and a half round trip.

A demo the boys did this past fall. One of those do not touch the other building jobs.

dirty4fun · Apr 15, 2022

Very seldom do I give a firm price on demo's, especially old corn cribs. They didn't have a dump truck to bring fill so used concrete, often old machinery pieces for rebar. The county sent me a letter from a job I did 4 years ago saying I didn't get a demo permit for removing concrete. I had done the job right about the time they required a permit, unless it is in a town. Just another way to get more money, it seems. I work by myself, usually loading the building during the week. Then breaking concrete and hauling it on the weekends. When I worked for another fellow, I ran the dragline on weekends and many nights. After coming off the farm, if I would work 60-80 hours a week. Thought nothing of it!

suladas · Apr 16, 2022

Dang cuttin edge you guys got it good there! If a demo was done like that here you’d have 10 city guys on site in minutes to fine and shut you down.

cuttin edge · Apr 16, 2022

suladas said:
Dang cuttin edge you guys got it good there! If a demo was done like that here you’d have 10 city guys on site in minutes to fine and shut you down.

That job is for the city. They wanted the space for parking City hall is the 5th building down the street in the second picture, and they have very little space for employee parking. They just wanted it done. I think that's a Sunday morning.

Acoals · Apr 16, 2022

cuttin edge said:
That job is for the city. They wanted the space for parking City hall is the 5th building down the street in the second picture, and they have very little space for employee parking. They just wanted it done. I think that's a Sunday morning.

It's a lot easier when you are working FOR the city . . .

cuttin edge · Apr 16, 2022

Here's one of one of the old schools being torn down. Either the machine in the other pictures or it's sister with the long boom on it.

suladas · Apr 16, 2022

cuttin edge said:
That job is for the city. They wanted the space for parking City hall is the 5th building down the street in the second picture, and they have very little space for employee parking. They just wanted it done. I think that's a Sunday morning.

That's crazy how lax they are. I've had demos shut down as no 6' fence on site, even when it was coming that afternoon, not allowed to even start without site fenced, that's on a regular site, on a city site you'd be fired if you delivered a machine without fencing up. City inspectors would have an aneurism if they saw that kind of debris on a city sidewalk. Never mind all the permits required to close one. I did a bottle depot and wanted to close sidewalk and 1 lane of traffic for 30 mins as face was right up to sidewalk, that took weeks of back and forth from city to approve and drawings to ensure it was up to their standards.

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