Everything I've ever bought used had the taillight warranty. As is-where is.
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Rant About Misrepresented Equipment
- Thread starter StevenG
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Bootheal
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StevenG, I know where a 455 (I think) is. It’s definitely not close to you but I’d be glad to see what the owner is looking to get out of it.Condition is unknown. We loaded it on a rollback about three months ago to transport from his FIL, who passed away, to his place. Don’t think it’s ever been inside a shed!
Oops, it doesn’t have a dozer blade on it!
I know of a similar machine. This owner also passed away and it’s in his barn. Still with a bucket, not a blade.
oldhousehugger
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I bought a D20PL-6 fifteen years ago that had a lot of salt damage. It had an 8 foot tilt blade and wide tracks on it. The tracks and drive sprockets were new. The track rollers were shot. I had to replace them all. The track frame was so worn and rusted at the front that the idler wheels up front wobbled and kept throwing tracks. Going underneath in the pan all the heads on the bolts were rusted away so a socket wouldn’t work. Had to weld extensions on to be able to back them out.
I’ve done a whole lot to restore the old thing with a new radiator being the latest. The original radiator had steel fins in it which had partially rusted away causing it to overheat. I won’t say I got a good deal on the machine but I could have done worse. I paid 10K for it which should have been 8K. The engine has been trouble free. I’ve put a new main clutch and steering clutches in it as well as brakes. I welded 1 inch wide steel bars to the pyramid tracks so it pushes like crazy. It’s done a tremendous amount of work for us even though the blade is loosey goosey. It was not designed for heavy earth moving but more for finish grading. With the modifications I’ve made it has done a lot of digging. The D21 would be far better at clearing land due to its hydrostatic transmission. The D20 you have to keep your foot on the clutch pedal ready to release so you don’t kill the engine.
I’ve done a whole lot to restore the old thing with a new radiator being the latest. The original radiator had steel fins in it which had partially rusted away causing it to overheat. I won’t say I got a good deal on the machine but I could have done worse. I paid 10K for it which should have been 8K. The engine has been trouble free. I’ve put a new main clutch and steering clutches in it as well as brakes. I welded 1 inch wide steel bars to the pyramid tracks so it pushes like crazy. It’s done a tremendous amount of work for us even though the blade is loosey goosey. It was not designed for heavy earth moving but more for finish grading. With the modifications I’ve made it has done a lot of digging. The D21 would be far better at clearing land due to its hydrostatic transmission. The D20 you have to keep your foot on the clutch pedal ready to release so you don’t kill the engine.
It seems like the older d20 and d21 lever steers can be had 10-15 range depending on condition. I'm being picky and want a d21 -7 or -8 with joysticks. From my research and understanding, they are almost bulletproof little dozers as long as they are maintained, steering clutch issues aside. No matter what used equipment I've ever bought I've always had to tinker and put some money into them.
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Wonder why one track is on backwards?
kshansen
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Probably just someone worked on it that did not know front from back!
I went to look at a pickup i called and talk to them 3 times i said look i am a mechanic i will know when i see it what it is tell me what is what now before i drive out there. He said its in good shape but has one hole in a rocker panel you could stick a pencil in. I took a trailer and drove out to look at it. I could see it setting along the road a mile away it had a brush paint job. I told my self this guy is getting a talking to . He wasnt home at the time we agreed on . It was rusty and had been puttyed up but yes there was only one hole in a rocker were the putty had fallen out. I weighted around then went back to a town close by ate dinner then went back never saw him. I think i tryed to call him later when i got home but he didnt answer.
scholzee
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I have gotten some very good deals over the years maybe 6 total. I never tell you about the 100's I looked at that were JUNK LOL.
dieseldog5.9
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A friend of mine just bought a 1500 Ram at auction, frame is held together with channel iron from Tractor Supply with welds that look like bird Sh&t.
I am not saying this to bitch its just the way it is but anytime you get something even if it was free it can be a deal. At the end if you spent to much on a junker but you fixed it up and got alot of use from it then you did ok.
I sent you a message.
My worst buy has been a trailer at an auction and trusting inspection to mean something, many years ago I was naive to think people would not fake/change out brake drums, shoes, and tires before a sale. But overall i've had pretty good luck buying from honest people. A few pieces where after I think dahm I practically stole this thing. When I bought my 210 it seemed great, knew it was a good price (worse machines at auctions sold days before for more), but still negotiated a bit down. When I showed up to pick up the machine the guy was like "don't forget your extra buckets". I thought it only included a ripper, but it also included a twist bucket, digging bucket, and another smooth bucket, easily worth another $10k, which is a lot when only paying $60k for the machine. Only problem I had was a sensor for pattern control changer kept coming up with error codes when I called and asked him about it he offered to send his mechanic to look at it for free. Turns out mechanic just put the box for new part in the cab didn't replace it, he chewed him out for it and apologized for it. Over 4 years later it has been incredibly reliable and very obvious it was always looked after well.
Because someone was a dumbass, and it wasn't me
BigWrench55
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DMiller
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LOL
hosspuller
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