Specialforces18E
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Hello all,
First post and new to all this stuff, so be gentle..lol
I have a cavitation problem with my Case 9060B. I have read forum after forum and I may have found out what the cause is but figured I would ask my question on here and see what people that know this type of equipment think. I purchased some land, purchased two used excavators and went to town. Three times now my EX has lost power. It happens momentarily and then keeps going once I take the load off. It has happened when I drove the EX from the front of my property to the back, almost a quarter mile. The second time it happened is when I idled down and jumped out to get on the TB175 to move a tree I just knocked down the the big EX. I thought I would be off for just a few minutes, however I was on the 175 for about 25 minutes. When I got back on the EX to start working again, it would lose power when I was digging hard. The third time happened again when I was driving the EX for some distance.
So far:
1. I have realized when I check the dip stick on the swing drive dip stick, it has bubbles in it. After research, I have learned this problem is called cavitation.
2. I called the dealer and asked what the problem would be and what parts I may need to fix it, and I was told that it may need new Hydraulic Fluid. He said that lots of people think any HF will work and will put in whatever hydraulic fluid they have. He said this machine takes "Ashless" Hydraulic fluid. That's the only advice he gave me. I decided to order all new filters for the whole machine and now have three 55 gallons drums of Ashless 46 AW Zinc-free hydraulic oil.
3. After rethinking this and doing some more research, I have read on a forum that if my hydraulic tank is leaking pressure, that may be the cause of the cavitation. The poster states that the tank is pressurized by the movement of the stick. That makes since to me as the 3 times this has happened, I wasn't using the arm for quite some time. I was driving for a while and then it was running idle for a while. So, I fired the big boy up and used her for a bit and when I shut her off, I could hear hissing coming from the hydraulic tank vent. So I guess my question is. . . . . . is that normal?
4. I have noticed what looks to be like a small leak, nothing dripping though. I didn't notice if it was there before, but since I don't recall, more than likely I would have noticed and it's "new". It's coming from pump assembly. See attached picture. Also, this machine has worked and still works well. . . . until it doesn't....lol.... My point is, the machines seems solid as a rock. I've never used these type of machines new, but compared to my TB175, this is solid. Starts up, works great, I can put the arm out and it's locked where I put it. All I do is shut the machine off, come back the next day and she fires right up and works great. After the 3rd time and finding the bubbles in the hydraulic oil, I figure it's best to fix her before doing more work.
Some questions I have:
1. Is it normal for the tank to vent pressure?
2. I have been unable to find online how to place the arm and bucket while checking the hydraulic oil level. When I place the arm extended on the ground with the buckets ram fully retracted (the TB175 is supposed to be checked that way) the hydraulic fluid is full. When I place the arm perpendicular to the ground with the buckets bottom flat on the ground, they hydraulic fluid is low. I really have no clue. . . . . If there is a manual to be downloaded, I haven't found it yet. (I'm sorry, I just ran across this site and wanted to post, I haven't checked here yet.)
3. Should I replace all the H oil?
4. If you were in my shoes, what would your next step be?
I am currently trying to locate someone in the area knowledgeable on this machine. Anyone near Monticello KY?
I GREATLY appreciate any advice you can provide. I feel i am a quick study and willing to spend countless hours researching before I ask. I purchased the TB175 from Insurance Auto Auctions with a burnt engine compartment. I took the project on to teach my son that anything can be accomplished as long as you stay dedicated. I mention this so you have some ideal of my mechanical abilities.
First post and new to all this stuff, so be gentle..lol
I have a cavitation problem with my Case 9060B. I have read forum after forum and I may have found out what the cause is but figured I would ask my question on here and see what people that know this type of equipment think. I purchased some land, purchased two used excavators and went to town. Three times now my EX has lost power. It happens momentarily and then keeps going once I take the load off. It has happened when I drove the EX from the front of my property to the back, almost a quarter mile. The second time it happened is when I idled down and jumped out to get on the TB175 to move a tree I just knocked down the the big EX. I thought I would be off for just a few minutes, however I was on the 175 for about 25 minutes. When I got back on the EX to start working again, it would lose power when I was digging hard. The third time happened again when I was driving the EX for some distance.
So far:
1. I have realized when I check the dip stick on the swing drive dip stick, it has bubbles in it. After research, I have learned this problem is called cavitation.
2. I called the dealer and asked what the problem would be and what parts I may need to fix it, and I was told that it may need new Hydraulic Fluid. He said that lots of people think any HF will work and will put in whatever hydraulic fluid they have. He said this machine takes "Ashless" Hydraulic fluid. That's the only advice he gave me. I decided to order all new filters for the whole machine and now have three 55 gallons drums of Ashless 46 AW Zinc-free hydraulic oil.
3. After rethinking this and doing some more research, I have read on a forum that if my hydraulic tank is leaking pressure, that may be the cause of the cavitation. The poster states that the tank is pressurized by the movement of the stick. That makes since to me as the 3 times this has happened, I wasn't using the arm for quite some time. I was driving for a while and then it was running idle for a while. So, I fired the big boy up and used her for a bit and when I shut her off, I could hear hissing coming from the hydraulic tank vent. So I guess my question is. . . . . . is that normal?
4. I have noticed what looks to be like a small leak, nothing dripping though. I didn't notice if it was there before, but since I don't recall, more than likely I would have noticed and it's "new". It's coming from pump assembly. See attached picture. Also, this machine has worked and still works well. . . . until it doesn't....lol.... My point is, the machines seems solid as a rock. I've never used these type of machines new, but compared to my TB175, this is solid. Starts up, works great, I can put the arm out and it's locked where I put it. All I do is shut the machine off, come back the next day and she fires right up and works great. After the 3rd time and finding the bubbles in the hydraulic oil, I figure it's best to fix her before doing more work.
Some questions I have:
1. Is it normal for the tank to vent pressure?
2. I have been unable to find online how to place the arm and bucket while checking the hydraulic oil level. When I place the arm extended on the ground with the buckets ram fully retracted (the TB175 is supposed to be checked that way) the hydraulic fluid is full. When I place the arm perpendicular to the ground with the buckets bottom flat on the ground, they hydraulic fluid is low. I really have no clue. . . . . If there is a manual to be downloaded, I haven't found it yet. (I'm sorry, I just ran across this site and wanted to post, I haven't checked here yet.)
3. Should I replace all the H oil?
4. If you were in my shoes, what would your next step be?
I am currently trying to locate someone in the area knowledgeable on this machine. Anyone near Monticello KY?
I GREATLY appreciate any advice you can provide. I feel i am a quick study and willing to spend countless hours researching before I ask. I purchased the TB175 from Insurance Auto Auctions with a burnt engine compartment. I took the project on to teach my son that anything can be accomplished as long as you stay dedicated. I mention this so you have some ideal of my mechanical abilities.
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