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Memories for us old truckers

1693TA

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The old 5&4's or 13&4's were popular around here in the old days of mechanical winches but nowadays most if not all, are hyd drive winches used with an 18spd

Not much winch work around here any longer but you are very correct in a 5&4 with a "Power Tower" was the way to drive a mechanical winch setup. Just as fast, or slow as you needed. It however made for a very crowded cab. Usually there was no passenger comfort to contend with in this type truck. Hydraulic drive has encompassed all this in a much smaller space requirements.

I located my winch controls above the winch outside of the cab. You reach through the sliding back window to operate the winch control and/or brake via air cylinder so the cab is unencumbered. It worked slick on the mechanical folding neck trailer I had.
 

Truck Shop

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Unless the auxiliary is at least a twin counter shaft 1241 it won't last with high hp.
A rebuilt 1241 is $3,500 average. Then the price of a 6spd main and those ain't
cheap. Plus the linkage, mounts, drive shaft and weight.
!8spd average $6,500 reman with less maintenance. Plus more saleable.
 

1693TA

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This is my old Mack R-612 with a mechanical Tulsa 100K line pull winch and I still favor this truck heavily:

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The horizontal bar you see through the windshield is the winch shift/direction lever:

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In these two photos it is kind of hard to see the winch shifting handle, the pneumatic valve that declutches the winch drum for free spool, and auxiliary valve that controls the winch drum brake band:

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The truck still has an RTO-12513 transmission installed that I've rebuilt the back end with RTO-14613 parts. It is quiet in operation just as my fresh RTO-14613 for the B-61 is.
 

1693TA

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I've been actively looking for an RGN trailer to put this truck back to work. Don't have air ride but I can work around that for the amount of usage it would get. Twice per year combines are the hot commodity for service around here and I could cabbage onto that market easily if I had trailer capacity for it.
 

d9gdon

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I have lived in New Mexico all my life. I've done a fair amount of trucking and even worked in lumber industry for a bit and that's the first I've heard of those tunnels. I feel a road trip coming
on.
I happened on it one day just cruising around on a weekend trip over the mountain from Los Alamos where I was working on a project. Decided to go up to Jemez Springs and just started driving the back roads. Turned into a neat surprise out in the middle of nowhere, it's really pretty there with the creek running beside the road going to it.

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