Cat 272D3XE Skid Steer Versus John Deere 332G Skid Steer Problems

Looking for input, as I am looking to buy either one of these two machines. Have already read about quite a few CAT D3 problems, (with track machines) but this would be a rubber tired machine.
Both are within $2000.00 price difference. Rubber tired still has two traction motors running chains instead of tracks.
Haven't seen anything bad about 332G's on this website, unless I missed it. CAT has better finance package (0% for 60 months right now)- one machine available in the next month and not another for 6 more months.
Read all about the 299D3 story that is on this site. The dealer close to here for CAT is very tied up with Fort Mac big dollar stuff... don't know how easy it would be to get service here, in Central Alberta.
If you know of anybody who has a 272D3 and hasn't had too many problems, please tell me about it. I read of someone here who had to change 4 Kubota engines on their machine (299D). Did not find the post.
Any input would be appreciated. Any JD 332G problems also appreciated. Thanks
Simon C

The Cat also comes with complete LED light package (worth $900 ) and is 10 HP. more than the John Deere. John Deeres finance is at 3.75% fo 4 years so the payments will be bigger and have interest of about $3500 for first year on $92000 borrowed in Canada. However they will have new interest rates starting on Monday that may be way better or worse. Will find out tomorrow. Haven't heard anyone chime in on their thoughts yet.
Simon C

Well I am not sure what you plan on doing with it, but the Deere gives up 10 hp to the XE model but the Deere makes like 20 more pound/feet of torque. The Deere has like 6500 pounds more breakout which is almost double what the Cat makes. If your planning on running some high performance hyd. attachment, in which case the Cat makes more psi and the extra hp would help with giving a higher hyd. hp rating. Those are the specs. Have you run them both and if so which one do you prefer? Not that my opinion matters but I have demoed a 328 and a 272 D2 several years ago. The Deere specs well, I just couldn't stand the EH, seemed like the machine would get hung up a lot, my elbows kept hitting some steel on the edge by the windows. I felt like I was sitting in a bathtub running it. I had never been so happy to give back a demo. The 272 I liked a lot better, competent in most things, I really liked the decel ability. The machines handle themselves much differently in my opinion which is why I was curious which one you liked the best.

Have Run a 2020 Year 330G which is same wheelbase and Width but only 90 H.P. I am use to the EH controls as I previously owned a J. Deere 326d Skid Steer. Have run quite a few Cat skid steers but in the B and C Models. Want to do some Scrap steel pickup, Snow pushing with Wolfpaw tires and maybe brushing with the unit running on Steel Grouser Tracks with a mulcher in Front. The Cat has a longer Wheel Base which does make more smooth. Any input appreciated.
Thanks Simon

Depending on how much you plan on using the mulcher would likely be a big decider for me. The Cat will likely run the mulcher better due to the higher psi rating and higher hyd. hp rating. The Deere specs better beyond that, especially in dump height, the Cat gets over reached by 6". Perhaps not a big deal if you don't fill trucks often, but that is a significant amount. If you went Cat I would make sure that the D3 issues have been worked out, maybe get Cat to kick in additional warranty. The issues you read about are on tracked machines, but they are essentially the same machines minus the tracks. The issues that I have read would appear to me to show up in either machine since minus the drive system they are much the same. There are a lot more tracked machines selling in this class than the large wheeled machines, so the issues are likely to show up in the tracked version. That said, I really like these big wheeled machines. I put the 14X17.5 tires on them and they can move a lot of material, and they are cheaper to buy and less to maintain. The larger tires really hook up much better than the 12's, and much more floatation. They wont run with a tracked machine in the dirt, but still really effective, especially if you plan on running steel tracks.

Thanks for your perspective as yes whether tracks or tires, the electrics and traction motors perform the same job. Rubber tires are cheaper than undercarriage if a person is careful.
Getting some final prices this morning. Good idea to make Cat pay for extra warranty if it is all good now as more warranty wont add any expense to their cost if it is all been fixed.
Thanks Simon

The $91900.00 Price that John Deere Quoted me last week with 3.75% interest for 48 months , with no money down has changed today. Now the new price for the 332G is $98900.00 at 0% for 36 months. These will be large payments to make compared to Caterpillars 0% for 60 Months. But Caterpillars sales agreement says that there may be additional Customs Duties. Import Duties and Excise taxes that I would be responsible for. This was in small Red Print in the sales agreement. The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away. The Cat salesman was quite nice and told me that he sold 3 , 299D3 Track machines that blew the cylinder head in the first 300Hours. He said that they were repaired and have been okay since. Dont think i will sign this agreement as i review It tonight. When the machine lands and if it is not spoken for i could then buy with no surprise. John Deeres Deal may still be as good. Any Thoughts Gentleman.
Simon C

Personally I have never used the free interest or low interest offered by an OEM. The price of the machines go up when you opted for their zero interest/reduced interest option. I have always been able to spend less by getting a price discount on the machine for NOT using the finance offer and financing the machine elsewhere. That has been my experience. If you go with the CAT when you know what the actual costs are, (Cat should be able to tell you what those costs will be right now in my opinion). I would get at least an extended engine warranty on the machine. I think CAT offers a 2 year engine warranty as standard. I am not sure what it costs if you had to pay for that repair yourself, but whatever it is, your not going to be happy regardless.

John Deere has offered a 5 Year 2000HR Power Train and Hydraulic warranty. That works better for me as 400hrs per year would be a busy year for me. Will be seeing the contract from them tomorrow and if ok a 332G is what I will have. They seem to be ready to stand behind there product and did treat me well in the past. Price is only one aspect as service is as big if you cant get it fixed. They did get me up and running 11 yeaars ago when the front Quick attach frame actually bent, and they got one fast and back to work in 1 week.
That was on a 326D skid steer that I bought from them. Thats all. Thanks for the input.
Simon C

KSSS just wanted you to know that I bought a 332G on Thursday. They gave me the 5year / 2000HR Powertrain and Hydraulic warranty on top of the 12 month bumper to bumper warranty. I think I will be satisfied with them as they are down to earth. Thanks for your input. Will land in Alberta Canada around end of December. Have some work lined up for it already.
Simon C

Sounds like they really stepped up for you. Let us know what you think of it. Congrats.