D5Dan
Well-Known Member
Hoping for a couple opinions or links from others who have made some battery choices...
My recently acquired D5 (84H493) was sold to me with "I did you the favor and switched out the expensive CAT batteries to regular Group 31's"...knowing some about the various "group" batteries, didn't think much about it, especially with the machine cranking over with ease. After machine gets dropped off, owner apologizes for the battery "rework"...basically warning me his "rigging" was to be checked!
As the pictures show, the "jumper" cables are inadequate and the connectors likely will need rework too (haven't remove the black tape yet). I load-tested each battery, one of the 31's couldn't pass. Not good, especially after each one was removed, fully charged/maintained for a better part of a day, then I let them sit for 4 to 5 hours off the charger (resting!)...then did the load test. All at 60 degree temps - in Maine thats a HOT day!
As you can see in the pictures, there is PLENTY of room for a group 31 battery, which makes sense since the recommended 4D battery is TWICE the animal as a 31!!! I know- as the saying goes - there's no replacement for displacement.
The reality is that this machine WILL sit for several(!) months at a time...maybe watching 4D's age out might be too painful to witness...
So do I stick it out with Group 31's that are easier to get(except during our ridiculous supply shortages!), cheaper (get what you pay for!), but certainly easier to move/swap?
Is there a 3rd option I'm missing? Big-rig batteries? Believe linking golf cart batteries are out since they won't fit in battery boxes...plus I imagine that to be a cable/hook-up S-show!
Once I lock-in on the battery decision then I'll know how to fix my battery connections/cables...which brings me to:
With a 24 volt system - when a jump-start/boost is needed: what hookup tricks have you guys found best? Having never boosted a 24-volt system, I can't see how the system can be boosted without two batteries and two sets of jumper cables, right? Do I add in a HD connector/plug to my battery bank to let me plug into the machine when the boost needs to happen (likely when it's ZERO out but “feels like” -25 b/o wind!)? Not to mention could use that plug as a way to plug a battery maintainer/charger into the battery bank...
And to round out the info – 24-volt starter, generator, regulator - If I've read correctly, CAT phased out 24-volt systems in favor of 12-volt systems. I assume this was possible because of (better?) gear reduction starters? And likely b/o better starting direct injection diesel engines, not to mention the required sensors/computers/screen/etc? Would I have any options/incentives to swap my 24-volt system to a 12-volt system?? I've ditched a few generators on old 60's cars in favor of alternators (with built in regs)...but I make no assumptions something off an 80's/90's machine would direct bolt on...maybe with a little fab work?? Are there shops I should know about that specialize in 24volt parts/rebuilds?
Thanks!
D5Dan
PS Just remembered I saw dash board lights (not sure they work)...plus the front/rear headlights (gone off my machine, but wires are there)...those must be powered off only one battery...hmmm...more research required
My recently acquired D5 (84H493) was sold to me with "I did you the favor and switched out the expensive CAT batteries to regular Group 31's"...knowing some about the various "group" batteries, didn't think much about it, especially with the machine cranking over with ease. After machine gets dropped off, owner apologizes for the battery "rework"...basically warning me his "rigging" was to be checked!
As the pictures show, the "jumper" cables are inadequate and the connectors likely will need rework too (haven't remove the black tape yet). I load-tested each battery, one of the 31's couldn't pass. Not good, especially after each one was removed, fully charged/maintained for a better part of a day, then I let them sit for 4 to 5 hours off the charger (resting!)...then did the load test. All at 60 degree temps - in Maine thats a HOT day!
As you can see in the pictures, there is PLENTY of room for a group 31 battery, which makes sense since the recommended 4D battery is TWICE the animal as a 31!!! I know- as the saying goes - there's no replacement for displacement.
The reality is that this machine WILL sit for several(!) months at a time...maybe watching 4D's age out might be too painful to witness...
So do I stick it out with Group 31's that are easier to get(except during our ridiculous supply shortages!), cheaper (get what you pay for!), but certainly easier to move/swap?
Is there a 3rd option I'm missing? Big-rig batteries? Believe linking golf cart batteries are out since they won't fit in battery boxes...plus I imagine that to be a cable/hook-up S-show!
Once I lock-in on the battery decision then I'll know how to fix my battery connections/cables...which brings me to:
With a 24 volt system - when a jump-start/boost is needed: what hookup tricks have you guys found best? Having never boosted a 24-volt system, I can't see how the system can be boosted without two batteries and two sets of jumper cables, right? Do I add in a HD connector/plug to my battery bank to let me plug into the machine when the boost needs to happen (likely when it's ZERO out but “feels like” -25 b/o wind!)? Not to mention could use that plug as a way to plug a battery maintainer/charger into the battery bank...
And to round out the info – 24-volt starter, generator, regulator - If I've read correctly, CAT phased out 24-volt systems in favor of 12-volt systems. I assume this was possible because of (better?) gear reduction starters? And likely b/o better starting direct injection diesel engines, not to mention the required sensors/computers/screen/etc? Would I have any options/incentives to swap my 24-volt system to a 12-volt system?? I've ditched a few generators on old 60's cars in favor of alternators (with built in regs)...but I make no assumptions something off an 80's/90's machine would direct bolt on...maybe with a little fab work?? Are there shops I should know about that specialize in 24volt parts/rebuilds?
Thanks!
D5Dan
PS Just remembered I saw dash board lights (not sure they work)...plus the front/rear headlights (gone off my machine, but wires are there)...those must be powered off only one battery...hmmm...more research required