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Tony Wells

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I was browsing various sub-fora the other day and someone mentioned a particular salvage yard. I can't find it now, so I thought if we could all post the salvage yards we knew about it would be helpful. I'm going to be hunting some rims for a machine pretty soon, and a machine salvage yard sounds like a good place to look. Any suggestions?
 

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I don't have that info yet, and mainly wanted a thread to get a list of salvage yards for old dead equipment.

All I know on the rims I will be needing is that they are on a Case 621 wheeled loader. Size unknown yet. Owner just called and put this on my list, but I have not gone to look at the machine to get that info. Will post when I get it.
 

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I work in one it seems like. The customer has a strong propensity to spend money at auctions buying equipment without inspection. Some of it comes it needing expensive work. But I generally am discouraged from robbing parts off what we already have, the idea being that we bought it to either repair and use, or repair and rent or sell. That gets frustrating at times of emergency downtime. I have to track down or re-create parts that are nearly impossible to find and very costly while I could at least "borrow" the part off another machine in the yard while I do so. Meanwhile, production may stop. That's the way the game is played here though.
 

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OK, since I started this thread with another motive combined with just a list of salvage yards, I'll get the rest of the story out, now that I have some additional information. It's all about rims for a Case 621C wheeled loader. We have 3. One in use, two probably worthy of a trip across the scales, but that's another story. I don't know everything a out equipment tires, so I'll need some help on this with proper terminology. The owner of the machines throws slang or colloquial terms about at random and that doesn't properly educate me. That's where you guys come in.

The issue starts with the rims/wheels on the machine in use. I've always heard them called "split rim" or "3 piece" style. In this case, they are very rusty and corroded. In fact, it's bad enough the tire busters won't touch it. I understand that they would probably never seal once they were broken loose, and I know they are hazardous to service. So the solution we desire is to replace the rims with single piece rims. One of the machines has singles on it, but apparently the studs and nuts are different as well. I know about hub-centric vs stud-centric. The machine we want to retrofit has nuts with washer faces, and that tells me it is hub-centric, as opposed to the nuts with a bevel on the face. What we want are single piece hub-centric rims that will fit a Case 621C, tire size 20.5-25. Machine sn is JEE0123361

So, suggestions anyone? The tires on it are in poor shape, but our tire guys won't touch it unless we get another set of rims.
 

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Before you go any farther we would need a tire size to go with the wheel. I assume a 621 Case is a wheel loader and wheel loader rims are all split rims. They can be three piece or five piece I believe. They will also have a locking key as part of the lock rings to keep the rings from turning on the wheel when using the brakes to slow down the machine. The wheel studs you are speaking of are usually standard using a special washer and a nut. They are usually spaced close together and when installed on the final drive or axle have to be torqued multiple times for them to stay tight. We would install the wheel and torque all the nuts. Take the machine out and run it for a bit and then re-torque. We would check torque again the first thing the next morning and again the next morning after that.

Probably the best one left in Washington State is Fraley Tractor in Wenatchee, Wa. https://fraleytractor.com

Nice people to deal with. Tell them that Komatsu guy on the other side of Washington gave you the link.
 

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Guys, I started a new thread specifically on these rims to keep from polluting this salvage yard thread.

https://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/threads/case-621c-rims.91476/#post-1002461

From what I understand about split rims (very little), it sounds like your tire guys are smart men.


I agree. I've see video where these were not installed correctly and came apart. I wouldn't want to be near it. Here you can see why they have good reason. It would never seal even if they did try.

rusty rim.JPG
 

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John,
I posted the tire size on the other thread. Yes, it's a wheeled loader (another reason I started a new thread...we have a wheeled loader sub-forum).

I'm not so sure that all have split rims. I know that they use both methods of mounting to the hubs. I have samples of both.
 

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Not sure you’re going to find one piece rims for a 20.5 x 25 tire. The largest I have seen is for a 17.5 and the tire men here curse them especially at 30 below.
The rims with a separate bead ring and lock ring are intrinsically safer than an old split rim as the lock ring can not removed until the bead ring is pushed back a fair distance.
 

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DB2, so I'm looking for a separate lock ring and bead ring. JohnC mentioned a drive lock. I'm not familiar with that. I don't think I've seen one on any of our equipment. Are the rims using those totally different from the bead and lock ring style?
 

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No they just have a lug on the rim and a corresponding notch on the ring where the lock goes. Nige posted a picture on the other thread I think.
I’ve never had a tire slip on the rim that was properly inflated but I guess every application is different.
 
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