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Overload of the Day

Spud_Monkey

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My experience with washers used with frame bolts is-- it doesn't work. It just adds two more places to slip. Why manufactures went back to that
had to be cost cutting-my guess. I only use course thread flange bolts with stover flange nuts. There spendy but way less trouble.
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56wrench

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Also use black( unplated) phosphate coated bolts. Plating usually makes bolts somewhat brittle. Bolts usually break in the threaded area or under the head. Over the years there has been a problem with counterfeit bolts and i always look for the manufacturer's identifying mark when looking at a failed bolt. It used to be that the CAT bolts were the best locally. Its probably still true. In some applications i will use a longer bolt so the shear area is not in the threaded area and then cut off the extra length. But i agree, the brackets and hardware were too light for the application
 

crane operator

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That's a shame to scrape up that nice new bumper. For a silver lining- just be glad it didn't happen in a spot where you really needed something hooked onto you, to keep you from sliding off a edge or on a steep turn- then things could have been ugly. Add more iron and bigger bolts, maybe KW will respray the bumper?
 

mx727

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I see now why a friend quit the backhoe business. Hard to justify the rig needed to move one.

Not sure what trailer and truck that guy had, but my F450 with 15 ton goose neck would be right at the limit for 22K load. However, getting the pin light enough to not exceed the RAWR is tricky. Point is, that truck may not be WAY over if it even is. My F450 has a GCWR of a bit over 42K, truck is 9500, trailer is 10700.
 

kshansen

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View attachment 245916 Not an overload, just plain dumb, and I was the lucky guy behind him. Is your arm considered an approved DOT tie down???
A couple years back I watched a guy try just about the same with a 4X8 sheet of 1/4 plywood at the Home Depot. He actually got out of the parking lot before he lost it!
 

skyking1

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@Hallback that is why it was drummed into my head to do EVERY POSSIBLE THING to avoid hooking heavy iron to trucks. I was not as swift as the guys who were learning me this. Being a farm kid who just 'got it done', it took a lot of pounding :D
I remember I built a dam across the irrigation runoff ditch and had all my toys out there, army men, dozers. I had a boat launch, roads, wood block buildings. I was probably 8~10. My older brother was tilling with the mitsubishi, and stood up to admire all my handy work. He was not aware of how big a soft spot I had made in the berry field and stuck the tractor hard. Dad chained the pickup to the tractor and two cars and all the rope and chain he could gather to get it out. Nobody was mad at me, they all liked the engineering and could see how brother could get stuck looking at it :)
So I wanted to hook onto anything and less experienced truck drivers wanted me to, and that farm boy in my took a while to get calmed down.
It all fell down to " you hook onto it, you break it, the boss buys it and you walk"
When you own both sides of it, and the boss says do it, then I was in the clear.
I guess what I am saying is, I don't give two craps about the size of the bumper bolts. The D8 guy stayed in, the truck guy let off, and I guarantee that something will break in that formula. There is just too much traction in those interlocked axles with ?? pounds over them, going uphill. The D8? Well yeah we know about that.
 

JLarson

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Lol I love seeing stuff "tied" on the top of cars/suv's. My favorite was a couple years ago we were loading a bunch of sakcrete at the HD and spotted a guy with a screen door leaving the loading area on top of his car. We stopped to watch and as he turned on the the main road and accelerated the door folded over like a taco hahahaha.
 

Birken Vogt

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I've seen a lot of mattresses tied on the top of some car with that puny yellow rope, one wrap around the middle. Of course the front catches the wind and is straight up in the air and the owner cruises along I am sure completely oblivious to the strain on the rope. But they somehow seldom break and fly away.
 
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