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Michigan 95B Loader info needed - Help

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DustyOne

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I have an old Michigan Clarke 95B straightframe loader and need some help from the readers. I had what I shall call an outer axle that has about five big ball bearings on the rear steering axle disintegrate. I took it apart and removed it and now operating in two wheel drive.

I cannot find a serial number on the machine although I have washed it clean, any advice on finding it would be helpful. All Michigan parts managers that I have called will first need a machine serial number to identify the model and year.

Secondly, any advice on a good salvage shop or parts company that I could call , your assistance is greatly appreciated.

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Sounds like you need a new cv joint.... I hope they are cheaper than the ones for a rear steer cat.. about $1200 for aftermarket. :eek:
 
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Are you sure it's a "B", I thought only the "A"s were straight frame?
Never done it but I've heard of people measuring a ball from the other side and buying just the balls from a bearing house. I would think rest of it would be shot if the balls disintegrated.
 
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Totally not sure about being an A or B model. I seen a picture in this forum posted and have made that assumption. It has the wrong decals on it, so that is not any help. It is a straight frame loader with a 4 cy -71 detroit motor in it. If i can find a serial number, mostly likely would be my best aid in finding the right part.

Yes, the axle cone ( bearings ) totally blew apart.
 
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My mistake, I looked through the 75A parts manual and there was a straight frame 75B (2 wheel drive rear steer) and a 75R (2 wheel drive front steer). Never seen either one. Usually parts books show where to look for the serial number but no luck. If you want I can look at our old 75A and see if can spot the number. Ours is serial no. 8498D with a Waukesha although I know they put various engines in there. If it is a 75, there is no way a 4-71 would fit. Our 175A has a 4-71 and that motor is huge. Maybe a 53 or 2-71 ?
 
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Thanks. It has a decal that says 175 on it, but is not. I will look tonight at the motor just to make sure on the motor. In any case, if i can find the serial number, then i am in business to start talking parts and even with a salvage place. Right now i am talking the unknown.
 
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Maybee some pics here would trigger some other members that know all the details..
 
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I looked on our 75 and couldn't find a number. It's been a long time but I really don't remember seeing it. The number I posted was from the parts manual that came with the machine when we purchased it (good grief in 1964).
 
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A 175 Michigan would have a bigger engine than a 4 71 in it.The ones that shipped with Detroits had 8v71s in them in my area.I suppose it is possible that the old straight frame loaders could have used them but any articulated loader that I have seen from Michigan would have been very underpowered with a 4 71.Ron G
 
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A 175 Michigan would have a bigger engine than a 4 71 in it.The ones that shipped with Detroits had 8v71s in them in my area.I suppose it is possible that the old straight frame loaders could have used them but any articulated loader that I have seen from Michigan would have been very underpowered with a 4 71.Ron G
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I am sure that it is a 4-71. Our175A was repowered by a previous owner. I think it originally had a Cummins. The 4-71 really fills it up under the hood, that's why I couldn't believe the 75A could have one. The later articulated 175 was at least twice the size of the straight frame, maybe triple. Well, maybe I exaggerate but there is a huge difference in size. Seems like many companies used to do this with their models as they came out with the new series. Look at the Cat 955. The H model weighed less than 25000 lbs. The last model the L was 37000 lbs.
 
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I tried twice to see that picture but it just ain't worth it........I trust you.LOL.Ron G
 
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The serial number tag is supposed to be on the inside of the cab mounted on the side down by your right calf, made of stainless and about 4 x 5.5 inches, there is also a brass tag on the front of tranny that should have a model number.
The specs for a 75a and a 75 b are vertually the same but the 75A is a bit heaver and can lift a thousand lb.s more.
The picture could be a a 75B but looks the same as my 75A.
I'm certainly no expert but if the only difference in a 3-53 and 4-53 is length then a 4-53 would fit in a 75A as the radiator can be moved back quite a bit.
 
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i was able to travel today and look at the loader that was at the machinery/loader dealer in aberdeen sd, which the picture is listed on www.machinerytrader.com and the 75B loader was significantly smaller then the loader that i have. Now i am starting to believe that the decal on my loader which says it is a 175 model perhaps is true. My loader looks exactly as the 75B loader except bigger tires, bucket, engine. So i am back to the identity crisis once again.
 
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Why not post a couple of good pictures of your loader with the wheelbase, width, and engine side view shots especially of the manifold and pump, that should clear things up.
The guys on this forum have owned or own just about every piece of old iron that was ever made. I have manuals with all the size specs. as well.
 
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DustyOne said:
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i was able to travel today and look at the loader that was at the machinery/loader dealer in aberdeen sd, which the picture is listed on www.machinerytrader.com and the 75B loader was significantly smaller then the loader that i have. Now i am starting to believe that the decal on my loader which says it is a 175 model perhaps is true. My loader looks exactly as the 75B loader except bigger tires, bucket, engine. So i am back to the identity crisis once again.
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It's too bad S. Dakota is a long Drive. My 175A lost it's engine while pushing snow (coolant in a cylinder last December). It's going to go pretty soon, would have made a good parts machine for you.
 
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