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Welded bushings

Sberry

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I am working on a loader and the bucket arm bush is outright gone, been for a long time and the po had come up with a greasee scheme must have worked for a while. Assuming we simply weld up the hole or shim/weld up with heavywall pipe and side shim it to reduce dirt, pump some moly 3 in to it nd let it wear steel to steel how long could we expect to run it?
 

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Better off having it line bored and new bushings pulled in, possibly bore welded then bored back to size if needed.
 

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I was wondering how long a fix lasts? The bore is already ruined. I been looking for parts and so far it's a slow go. Ain gonna hurt one of the holes any more than it is. If we wore it out could always do it again.
 

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It's Dresser 515. I was trying to find some parts listing. So far doesn't seem like I can find parts pages similar to JD.
 

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I am going to get a pic of the cutting edge also. There was a little creative work done to it too. The bucket link needs buns and seals at one end and the top could make it with seals. Looks like a disk bearing seal.
I understand mild isn't hardened bush but I am sure I am not the first with this scheme. Be different if it was not eye worn and headed for 5000 hrs of service vs 500 utility.
 

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If your looking for heavy usage I would do what JLarson said to do.
 

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It never lasts for long. Whatever piece of pipe you stick in there moves around enough to break the welds and then it just becomes pieces to grind on the pin.
 

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Ithete was a minor bend in the arms, less than 1/4 in one and I bend one back 1/2 or so and got them within 1/4 and don't think I gonna fuss with it anymore.
 

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I would like to quote. Let me see about pics. I did some measuring and am surprised how localized part of the damage is. I understand hard use, I understand it not being strong enough. It was working with a piece of hot roll in it and a missing bushing. I just made 2 bushings from 2 inch sched 80, 1 side might even be close enough to put seals in it and even a chance I can do it to the other one. I found trailer wheel seals at auto parts 3$ a piece.
Would motion industries have bushings?
 

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Ithete was a minor bend in the arms, less than 1/4 in one and I bend one back 1/2 or so and got them within 1/4 and don't think I gonna fuss with it anymore.
 

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Probably need to bore for oversize bushing or build up to fit original size and line bore. Depending on how much out of round a split tension bushing may be an option. Pipe by itself will too soft and not last. Probably not a good fit either.
 

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Loaded trucks for years with a 980B with DOM tubing welded in aligned with a shaft old junk aint to fussy
I was wondering what the real life might be. Not going to work in in a pit all day. Mostly simple utility, some snow and a little digging and bucket hauling. I might be able get it close. Looks like inam going to get the sleeves quite tight and weld the ends in. Its not a huge deal to.cut them out down the line if we really ran it much. If there was more in this area would invest in the equipment. Does a guy but sleeve and cut stock bushings? I really don't want to become a machine shop, if I was already tooled it would be another matter. I was thinking there would be ready made parts on hand. I see lots of Cat and JD, nothing for this. Even 1 bushing would make it easier, actually 2
 
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