OK all you demo experts

[cbhfour]

I was talking about 20 cans for a job I was bidding, not the house Bigdan was quoting.

 

[RollOver Pete]

Too bad this isn't in So. Cal.
Here you could put up a fence,
private property and no trespassing signs and in a few days the place would be stripped down,
loaded up on bobtail flatbeds and across the border.
Call it a version of recycling.

 

[jrtraderny]

Nac, I talked to code enforcement today and yes it all has to go .There will be nothing left but dirt. The driveway can stay though which is concrete. The landfill gets $ 52 a ton. If I had a ton of work lined up I would do as you descibed and geter done in a couple of days but right now things are slow so I can afford to take my time. The owner says he got some other estimates and the numbers where fuzzy ??? I am thinking they are not commiting to a solid number. Which is understandable to a degree.

Dan,
I can tell ya right now that the owner is NOT going to get a firm quote on a demo, unless it's extremely high. When you're getting rid of demo debris nobody can tell you how much it will weigh , and the landfill is by the ton. No one in they're right mind would give a firm price on a demo. You can get close but you need some wiggle room.
jr

 

[BIGDAN315]

Jr.
What you say makes sense to me. I think a ballpark figure is all he is going to get from me. I just want to make sure I am not our of the ball park when finished....ointhead

 

[Turbo21835]

Too bad this isn't in So. Cal.
Here you could put up a fence,
private property and no trespassing signs and in a few days the place would be stripped down,
loaded up on bobtail flatbeds and across the border.
Call it a version of recycling.

Funny, we have a similar situation here. Except the stuff doesnt cross the border. It usually is limited only to metals. Copper goes first. Then aluminum siding on the back of the house goes next, closely followed by the sides of the house. Then the front gets hit. At first this is limited To the lower 8ft of the house. It also includes the aluminum storm door. Now when the house gets torn down, every thing is fair game, dont mind the guy sitting in the excavator, hes just there to help you load it out :beatsme

If they are nice enough to put it in a can that says metal only, that is surely going to the landfill. So help yourself. Even better, ask the guy running the excavator if its going to the landfill. When he says no, its going to the scrap yard, and get the *$%#@ outa here, that means come back after hes done for the day. Remember, only grab the stuff outside the building, otherwise your breaking and entering. That means more jail time if you get caught

 

[BIGDAN315]

Well I got the job. will keep you all posted.

 

[Nac]

I did mean twenty 30CY cans.

Nac, curious as to how many cans you would estimate for a 3200 SF Hardee's Restaurant?

I would have to see how many interior partions and stuff there is left behind how tall the walls are. But off the top of my head 14 30CY cans what ever you would figure if it was a house demo and double the price since it is commercial.

 

[Nac]

Dan,
I can tell ya right now that the owner is NOT going to get a firm quote on a demo, unless it's extremely high. When you're getting rid of demo debris nobody can tell you how much it will weigh , and the landfill is by the ton. No one in they're right mind would give a firm price on a demo. You can get close but you need some wiggle room.
jr

When I bid demo it is a firm price the only thing i would exclude if the footings are bigger than average and i do not know how big they are with out digging them up.

 

[tonka]

congrats DAN!

 

[BIGDAN315]

congrats DAN!

Thanks, Tonka

 

[CM1995]

Jr.
What you say makes sense to me. I think a ballpark figure is all he is going to get from me. I just want to make sure I am not our of the ball park when finished....ointhead

Well I got the job. will keep you all posted.

What was your estimated quantity of debris? How did the contract turn out- guaranteed maximum price, hard bid or T&M?

And congratulations.

 

[BIGDAN315]

What was your estimated quantity of debris? How did the contract turn out- guaranteed maximum price, hard bid or T&M?

And congratulations.

From the info I gathered here and from my own 2 cents I estemated about 40 tons of wood and contents to the land fill which I will probably hall myself. The land fill is maybe 3 miles from the sight. Can people wanted $ 500 for a 40 yarder which included 4.5 ton anything over $ 50 a ton. The foundation I will also hall to a sight with no fee just feul and time to hall and aprox 50 tons there. If I hall the money goes in my pocket not the can peoples. I gave an estimate of $9000 to $11000 and the guy said he got lower ones but did not include cans and mine did. So he agreed to the price. The town gave him a time to comlete the job of 10 days starting on 7/14 to 7/23 of 08. Looks like I need to get buisy. Figures I had practly nothing going on and all of a sudden 2 nice jobs come in at the same time..Go figure..lol. Also the town wants to do a asbestes survey. According to the home owner there is none..:beatsme I added to my estimate that there will be aditional cost if there was any and it had to be removed..

 

[BIGDAN315]

Found out today that the home owner new about the asbestas survey, acording to code enforcement and wasn't up front with me on it. Something doesn't feel right about this already....:beatsme

 

[AtlasRob]

When you quote/est/price jobs such as this, do you get an advance,
a % payment up front. What we refer to as mobilisation costs ? Just curious as to how different parts of the world operate. :drinkup

BTW Good luck with this venture, thanks for being so open in your learning, it helps us all. :thumbsup

 

[BIGDAN315]

When you quote/est/price jobs such as this, do you get an advance,
a % payment up front. What we refer to as mobilisation costs ? Just curious as to how different parts of the world operate. :drinkup

BTW Good luck with this venture, thanks for being so open in your learning, it helps us all. :thumbsup

I asked him for 50% down then the rest when the job is done. He agreed but also said he could get close but not all of the down payment. This makes one wonder hows he going to pay the rest..:beatsme

Thats what we are here for to learn from others and thanks.

 

[CM1995]

I asked him for 50% down then the rest when the job is done. He agreed but also said he could get close but not all of the down payment. This makes one wonder hows he going to pay the rest..

You might want to investigate the project financing a little further before you start.

Found out today that the home owner new about the asbestas survey, acording to code enforcement and wasn't up front with me on it. Something doesn't feel right about this already...

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck..............

 

[humboldt deere]

In california the most you can ask for legally is 10% or maximum $1,000 down payment, whichever is less.

 

[jrtraderny]

From the info I gathered here and from my own 2 cents I estemated about 40 tons of wood and contents to the land fill which I will probably hall myself. The land fill is maybe 3 miles from the sight. Can people wanted $ 500 for a 40 yarder which included 4.5 ton anything over $ 50 a ton. The foundation I will also hall to a sight with no fee just feul and time to hall and aprox 50 tons there. If I hall the money goes in my pocket not the can peoples. I gave an estimate of $9000 to $11000 and the guy said he got lower ones but did not include cans and mine did. So he agreed to the price. The town gave him a time to comlete the job of 10 days starting on 7/14 to 7/23 of 08. Looks like I need to get buisy. Figures I had practly nothing going on and all of a sudden 2 nice jobs come in at the same time..Go figure..lol. Also the town wants to do a asbestes survey. According to the home owner there is none..:beatsme I added to my estimate that there will be aditional cost if there was any and it had to be removed..

Dan ,FYI the one I just finished was a house about that size with a barn that was a bit larger. It took 6 40 yd. cans
and was 39.5 tons. Couldn't get it to break up well. Cans were $245 each and landfill was $46.50 a ton.
Did that job in about 9 hrs. and my take was about $2600.
jr

 

[BIGDAN315]

Dan ,FYI the one I just finished was a house about that size with a barn that was a bit larger. It took 6 40 yd. cans
and was 39.5 tons. Couldn't get it to break up well. Cans were $245 each and landfill was $46.50 a ton.
Did that job in about 9 hrs. and my take was about $2600.
jr

Did you have to remove the foundation and concrete floor? Which is the case here which ads another 50 tons or so and labor. This house also has allot of contents. He must of been some kind of collector.

 

[jrtraderny]

Did you have to remove the foundation and concrete floor? Which is the case here which ads another 50 tons or so and labor. This house also has allot of contents. He must of been some kind of collector.

House was empty and the foundation stayed.
jr