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Just some work pics
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crane operator
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Looks like they have a small rust issue. Hot rivet bridge, what's the plan for fixing?
crane operator
Senior Member
Man that Mack/National is one versatile machine.
Thanks for pointing that out, I tend to forget, or have other opinions.......
hosspuller
Senior Member
Unistrut … By the looks of the pile of the stuff in first pic. A tad better than the timbers holding the stairway.
ryanmueller
Well-Known Member
We are driving temporarily piles then jacking it up off those and replacing the broken members. That's all I know about it right now
crane operator
Senior Member
Two more went off the curve at the shop last night. One left just his silver bumper, the other guy left the whole car, but the steer tires point in different directions. I called the sheriff, because I can't get the lowboy out of the driveway going left/uphill, with where they left their car. They just came and put a sticker on it. If it ain't gone tomorrow, its going to be gone tomorrow.
We had rain last night, but I went two hours north this morning to load out a LP tank, and they had all this funny looking white stuff all over the roofs and grass, and the wind sure had a bite. They're saying 16 degrees tonight, got the antifreeze checked in everything.
We had rain last night, but I went two hours north this morning to load out a LP tank, and they had all this funny looking white stuff all over the roofs and grass, and the wind sure had a bite. They're saying 16 degrees tonight, got the antifreeze checked in everything.
crane operator
Senior Member
Lp tank today. About 2 hours away, so I took the RT on the lowboy rather than the 35. Yes, that's a little skiff of snow on top of the tank. Truck came out of Kansas City, and he said he had to shovel several inches off the trailer.
Leaves are gone on some of the trees, but the sunshine really makes what's left stand out.
Leaves are gone on some of the trees, but the sunshine really makes what's left stand out.
crane operator
Senior Member
It lives!
It turned cold and snowy here, so I needed to put some of the cranes inside for tomorrow.
That means we had to do a little quick work to the pete that has taken root in one of the shop bays. Its going to need some more work before its ready for a load. Only the air pressure and oil pressure gauges worked. Need to adjust brakes, seems the park cans aren't holding (or I don't remember backing them off or capturing them while we rolled it around with no engine in it- which is certainly possible). Brakes smakes- I needed it out of the shop.
Anyhow, it at least starts and drives forwards and backwards. Driveline is in, exhaust is fixed. New air to air, and I've got some better rubber to mount on the rears. It's slowwwly becoming a runner.
It turned cold and snowy here, so I needed to put some of the cranes inside for tomorrow.
That means we had to do a little quick work to the pete that has taken root in one of the shop bays. Its going to need some more work before its ready for a load. Only the air pressure and oil pressure gauges worked. Need to adjust brakes, seems the park cans aren't holding (or I don't remember backing them off or capturing them while we rolled it around with no engine in it- which is certainly possible). Brakes smakes- I needed it out of the shop.
Anyhow, it at least starts and drives forwards and backwards. Driveline is in, exhaust is fixed. New air to air, and I've got some better rubber to mount on the rears. It's slowwwly becoming a runner.
crane operator
Senior Member
Oh don't worry, I won't keep it all to myself, I'd send it to anyone that wants it. It was pretty cool here again this morning, usually we see lows in the 30's and highs in the 50's all winter, its been in the teens here the last couple mornings, so pretty unseasonable.
Old 35 was nice and warm when I left the shop, but I did put some air line antifreeze in it, just as a precaution. I hate it when my upper air freezes and I don't have any throttle.
Nige
Senior Member
The best place for snow is on a Christmas Card IMHO .....
Raildudes dad
Senior Member
Someone needs to pull their head out their azz. I've been designing, inspecting and directing the maiantnece of 170+ county highway bridges of all size shapes and types for 40 years. That deck looks to be in good shape. If they wanted to seal it, a 2 part epoxy healer sealer broomed on would work. Like I said before a mill in a skid steer would work.
As a professional engineer myself, it makes me totally disgusted when an engineer comes up with such nonsense.
Theweldor
Senior Member
But, You do have to realize that there are (Practical Engineers) and Professional Engineers!!!
crane operator
Senior Member
No need to get real bent out of shape, you're paying their wages. and for the divers. And the mill machine. And the steel, and the crane guy. The divers also put a grout skin on the abutment.
That was hilarious . They put a plywood form on the abutment, 10' wide, 2' tall or so, to put 1" to 2 1/2" of grout on the face. They had a grout pump. The pump died, so they were trying to take 5 gal buckets, and pour it into one side of the form, and beat on it with a hammer and get it to "flow" to the other side. I stood there for 4 hours while they struggled with the pump, and the buckets. My patience with the buckets was not great. I had a two hour trip back home, and really didn't want to make the run in the dark again.
Got to take out the 35 earlier this week, and set a repeater tower for the county fire dept. They had their ladder truck to go up and unrig.
and for the divers. And the mill machine. And the steel, and the crane guy. The divers also put a grout skin on the abutment.That was hilarious . They put a plywood form on the abutment, 10' wide, 2' tall or so, to put 1" to 2 1/2" of grout on the face. They had a grout pump. The pump died, so they were trying to take 5 gal buckets, and pour it into one side of the form, and beat on it with a hammer and get it to "flow" to the other side. I stood there for 4 hours while they struggled with the pump, and the buckets. My patience with the buckets was not great. I had a two hour trip back home, and really didn't want to make the run in the dark again.
Got to take out the 35 earlier this week, and set a repeater tower for the county fire dept. They had their ladder truck to go up and unrig.
Welder Dave
Senior Member
I guess they didn't want you taking pictures of their stupidity on the bridge???
crane operator
Senior Member
I think it was mostly just trying to make the most of a bad situation. We were over a hour away from anywhere when their grout pump goes down. Probably 5 hours away from anywhere that might have a replacement pump(doubtful). No cell service. No real plan once the grout pump died, so they spent two hours trying to get the pump regoing. Prime, clean out, remix grout, pump. Plug up the lines, reprime, no pump, clean out- repeat, repeat, repeat.
And no one likes to beat their head against the wall, so they tried finishing up the one they had started with the buckets and a hammer, sometimes it just takes someone else saying "I know what you guys are trying to do, but it isn't going to work, and you just as well quit now, it ain't going to get better".
I'm sure they ended up taking that form back off, cleaning the grout all up with a hammer drill and chisel bit and starting over once they got a different pump. Its just no fun getting beat.
I will admit I had some worries myself on that job. There was a inspector from the feds there the whole time. I could see a "natural disaster" of epic proportions if I lost a hyd. hose. Fortunately that didn't happen, but the thought goes through your mind, because the feds sure won't care that sometimes lines give out.
And no one likes to beat their head against the wall, so they tried finishing up the one they had started with the buckets and a hammer, sometimes it just takes someone else saying "I know what you guys are trying to do, but it isn't going to work, and you just as well quit now, it ain't going to get better".
I'm sure they ended up taking that form back off, cleaning the grout all up with a hammer drill and chisel bit and starting over once they got a different pump. Its just no fun getting beat.
I will admit I had some worries myself on that job. There was a inspector from the feds there the whole time. I could see a "natural disaster" of epic proportions if I lost a hyd. hose. Fortunately that didn't happen, but the thought goes through your mind, because the feds sure won't care that sometimes lines give out.
crane operator
Senior Member
And the whole job isn't these guys idea either. It's just another federal job put up for bids, and they are trying to get it finished for less than the bid amount and make a little $ in the middle. Ours not to reason why....
Camshawn
Senior Member
Crane operator
It’s not if something will fail because we know at some point it will, it is how you react to the failure.
All the equipment working in our watersheds are equipped with spill kits incase a hose breaks (a 5 gal bucket filled with spill pads). Larger machines have bigger kits. They go so far as to park machines on plywood covered with spill pads if left unattended for any length of time. There are written procedures to wave around to asscover that include calling someone in charge right a way to report any incidents so more resources can be dispatched. This serves to spread any liability around and provides ready answers when the public starts to jump up and down. The bosses can say we had a plan. In my experience, having a plan that when tested is found to be flawed is much better than not having a plan.
Cam
It’s not if something will fail because we know at some point it will, it is how you react to the failure.
All the equipment working in our watersheds are equipped with spill kits incase a hose breaks (a 5 gal bucket filled with spill pads). Larger machines have bigger kits. They go so far as to park machines on plywood covered with spill pads if left unattended for any length of time. There are written procedures to wave around to asscover that include calling someone in charge right a way to report any incidents so more resources can be dispatched. This serves to spread any liability around and provides ready answers when the public starts to jump up and down. The bosses can say we had a plan. In my experience, having a plan that when tested is found to be flawed is much better than not having a plan.
Cam
Raildudes dad
Senior Member
I consider myself a PPE, Practical Professional Engineer
An 1-2 1/2 inch skin coat? How do they think that will stay?
crane operator
Senior Member
I don't think the installers care if it stays on or not. That's what they are getting paid to do. I really think they should have just left the thing alone.
What I really think is going to happen is this- 5 years from now, the repair is going to start flaking on the surface, and coming off the abutments. Then they can say "we did everything we could 5 years ago, but the structure is just too far gone to save. We'll have to tear it out and return the river to its original "wilderness" state".
You have to think like a person that goes to work for the feds as a " park ranger". Nature undisturbed that no one has access too, is the best kind of nature- that's all they learn from their conservationist professors in college, and the sierra club. So anything they can do to tear stuff out or limit access is a good thing in their minds. Never mind that there's a highway bridge 200 yards downstream.
What I really think is going to happen is this- 5 years from now, the repair is going to start flaking on the surface, and coming off the abutments. Then they can say "we did everything we could 5 years ago, but the structure is just too far gone to save. We'll have to tear it out and return the river to its original "wilderness" state".
You have to think like a person that goes to work for the feds as a " park ranger". Nature undisturbed that no one has access too, is the best kind of nature- that's all they learn from their conservationist professors in college, and the sierra club. So anything they can do to tear stuff out or limit access is a good thing in their minds. Never mind that there's a highway bridge 200 yards downstream.