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Fishmouth Fabworks shop thread

FISHMOUTH FAB

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All the pin bores were 1.5". My boring set up cannot go that small. So I machined new pin bosses that step from 2.5" down to 2" with a 1.5" ID. I bored the holes out in the ram ears, and used my alignment bar to tack them in place. The mounting distance was narrower for the new rams anyway. I decided this was the best way, instead of adding spacers.
 

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FISHMOUTH FAB

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I added gussets to the pin bosses to help keep the rams from bending the ears again. I also added a wing plate made from .500" plate to the ends. welded with .045" 71M dual shield
 

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While its in your shop you should convince them to switch it over to a fixed attachment instead of a dangle attachment. They will be able to build walls about twice as fast. It also appears the reliefs are a little tight maybe....tio
 

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now that the buckets were fixed. I moved onto the main frame. 1" side plates that had been completely tore in half. need less too say, they were not straight with each other anymore. One side was "ok" so I cut the worst side off. I made a new side plate and used my alignment bar once again.
 

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I did the same thing as I did on the buckets. Bored the hole's to 2" and put the new pin bosses in. I also decided to add some vertical gussets on the sides to add kind of a "rub rail" when they use it as a wrecking ball. it also added support for the new side plate. All .045" 71M dual shield.
 

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After I machined the new pin tubes for the buckets, I got them welded up and placed some gussets on the inside to add support to the bucket ears. I also added overlays to the sides where all the welds were built up. hopefully this will help keep it from cracking around there.
 

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Once I got it aligned, I burned it all up and painted it. Shipped it out. I have been trying to get a picture of it on the machine, but no luck yet.
 

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I got a call last Friday that they needed a cab guard on a 314E asap. So I went down to their yard and knocked this out for them so it could go to work on Saturday. 2"x3"x .250" with 3"x .500" slates. goes up and over the top. 16 slates in all.
 

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Must be a mistake, looks like at least one of those pins is still straight!

Are you going to "fix" this or just use it as a pattern to build a new and better one?

I think I would have been better off building a new one. But I had a budget of $3200 to work under. I lost my ass, but I look at as a new customer discount. Investing in building a relationship with another company.
 

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While its in your shop you should convince them to switch it over to a fixed attachment instead of a dangle attachment. They will be able to build walls about twice as fast. It also appears the reliefs are a little tight maybe....tio

Interesting. I will pass that along. What do you mean by reliefs?
 

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I think he's talking about the relief pressure for the cylinders. If the cylinder pins are bending the cylinders are generating too much power. Fab work looks great as always.
 

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Interesting. I will pass that along. What do you mean by reliefs?

I'm thinking "theironoricale" is saying the pressure relief valves in the machine are set too "high"/"tight" for the attachment causing things to bend under excess force. By the time you did all the reinforcing it might hold up for a time.

And don't take it personally when it comes back all beat to heck in a heap! There are plenty of "operators" out there that could destroy a D11 Cat demoing a sand castle.

Almost for got to say it looks almost to nice to let them have it back again, nice work as always!
 

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Hello , I am not new here but this is my first post. I thought I would share some photos of projects I have worked on recently. Almost all of it is Logging related equipment.

First picture is some track guards on a 308C. Inside and out, welded on and sleeved together with 4 1" solid pins to help fight deflection

Second is Line boring a Fecon head for a Timbco

Third is A grapple plate to add a little more reach on the same 308C


Wow, good stuff. Your not far from us, were in Lodi. And by us I mean me and my wife, I need to hired sumbuddy. How is that area, Georgetown? We want to move...
 

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Interesting. I will pass that along. What do you mean by reliefs?

As others have answered for me the pins could be bending because the pressure reliefs in the machine are set to high. This is a fine line between not breaking the attachment from hydraulic pressure and being able to hold the objects (rocks in this case) you want. Your fabrication skills are excellent. TIO
 

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I think he's talking about the relief pressure for the cylinders. If the cylinder pins are bending the cylinders are generating too much power. Fab work looks great as always.

Gotcha. Thank you!

I'm thinking "theironoricale" is saying the pressure relief valves in the machine are set too "high"/"tight" for the attachment causing things to bend under excess force. By the time you did all the reinforcing it might hold up for a time.

And don't take it personally when it comes back all beat to heck in a heap! There are plenty of "operators" out there that could destroy a D11 Cat demoing a sand castle.

Almost for got to say it looks almost to nice to let them have it back again, nice work as always!

Thank you. After watching them beat on the other one, I think I will see this one in a year or earlier!

You Sir are Truly a Craftsman. You do beautiful fab work. Please keep the pictures and stories coming.

Thanks! I will!

Wow, good stuff. Your not far from us, were in Lodi. And by us I mean me and my wife, I need to hired sumbuddy. How is that area, Georgetown? We want to move...

It's the hills. Still tweekers around, but no many. I live in Garden Valley. It's about 4-5 miles from Georgetown. Still a cool small town. There are more bay area people moving up here every year. My wife and I will probably move back to NV in a few years.

Seems like you get a lot done in a small space, a lot of road jobs though too, I am not a welder but I am really impressed, nice photos too.

3000 sqft

As others have answered for me the pins could be bending because the pressure reliefs in the machine are set to high. This is a fine line between not breaking the attachment from hydraulic pressure and being able to hold the objects (rocks in this case) you want. Your fabrication skills are excellent. TIO

Thank you TIO. That could be it. I watched them for a little while. If they try to grab a rock and it doesn't quite fit, they lift it up and slam it down wide open. They close it and use the bottom of the bucket as a "hammer" to set the rocks. And if it isn't in line, they use the side of the buckets as a wrecking ball. I think it is a crap shoot and job security haha
 

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Fishmouth,

The way you describe how they use this grapple is very informative. My mind always operates equipment from a finesse point of view not a hit it harder point of view. This obviously is because I'm the guy that gets to repair stuff. I will admit I was young and dumb once too but I learned early on to use tools for and how they are designed or there are consequences. I have spent just enough time in the operator seat of all types of equipment to understand ramming and jamming really wears out the operator too, these must be young operators? Again nice work.....TIO
 

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I think I would have been better off building a new one. But I had a budget of $3200 to work under. I lost my ass, but I look at as a new customer discount. Investing in building a relationship with another company.

I hate the "budget" customers, have one that calls all the time & it's just a hard place to make money. Don't sell yourself short, quality work is hard to come by, shouldn't have to give it away.
 
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