Would You Haul it ??

[seatwarmer]

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Yair . . .

seatwarmer. I figured the gadget hanging on the back was some form of counterweight . . . those big suckers look strange with out a hook on the back hey?

Without a ripper it would seem it is bound for a life of mine reclamation or some such class of bulk pushing . . . looks like just a standard blade.

I reckon during its life the beancounters will be cursed for fitting a weight rather than hydraulic hooks . . . even just for diagnostics and walking gear maintenance it was a whole different world for me when I could get big tractors off the ground, quite apart from getting out of bogs.

Gotta say though that to these old eyes they look like a "proper" tractor. (grins)

Still don't understand the scaffolding though, safety when and for who?

Cheers.

A dozer without a ripper tooth hanging off the backside is like walking down high street naked

 

[norite]

Blame BHP, it was those fcukers who first started all the "safety" sh1t on machines....

And it's spreading everywhere and getting worse. Operators never want it, mechanics and welders don't want to install or maintain it. It is just some safety guy and an accountant at corporate hq who think both their numbers will be better if they eliminate every possible way somebody could possibly hurt themselves, no matter how unlikely. It's the nanny state and they are trying to "childproof" our workplaces.

I am not against sensible safe guarding, footing and handrails but it's getting ridiculous.

 

[seatwarmer]

And it's spreading everywhere and getting worse. Operators never want it, mechanics and welders don't want to install or maintain it. It is just some safety guy and an accountant at corporate hq who think both their numbers will be better if they eliminate every possible way somebody could possibly hurt themselves, no matter how unlikely. It's the nanny state and they are trying to "childproof" our workplaces.

I am not against sensible safe guarding, footing and handrails but it's getting ridiculous.

Norite
Its called common sense. And the world has lost common sense

 

[seatwarmer]

yes you are correct front of the vehicle must be boarded ABNORMAL and the rear ABNORMAL/E

somebody did not read that memo

sorry cant get the pic clear enough but the front says ABNORMAL/E

 

[kshansen]

And it's spreading everywhere and getting worse. Operators never want it, mechanics and welders don't want to install or maintain it. It is just some safety guy and an accountant at corporate hq who think both their numbers will be better if they eliminate every possible way somebody could possibly hurt themselves, no matter how unlikely. It's the nanny state and they are trying to "childproof" our workplaces.

I am not against sensible safe guarding, footing and handrails but it's getting ridiculous.

Like the guys who said we had to install a guard on the alternator belt and pulley on our older 769C? I tried to tell them if someone was standing close enough to it to get hurt he'd better watch out because the front tire is going to run him over. At least the one I made was held on with one of these rubber hold-downs like they use on battery box covers so it was a simple no-tool remove and install when changing the oil filters. Unlike some of the "factory" guards that can take three different tools and a bunch of cussing!

 

[kshansen]

somebody did not read that memo

sorry cant get the pic clear enough but the front says ABNORMAL/E

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I'm assuming those three cars/trucks behind that load is so some idiot doesn't try to pass and hit the load. Would be a shame to scratch that nice yellow paint!

 

[seatwarmer]

one is an escort, the others are trying to pass. Most south africans can't do basic physics.

I'm assuming those three cars/trucks behind that load is so some idiot doesn't try to pass and hit the load. Would be a shame to scratch that nice yellow paint!

 

[kshansen]

one is an escort, the others are trying to pass. Most south africans can't do basic physics.

Well from my limited experience following large loads here in the US drivers here are no smarter!

 

[CM1995]

Well from my limited experience following large loads here in the US drivers here are no smarter!

What he said!rofessor

 

[crane operator]

Missed the picture because I was driving. Passed a Dodge 1 ton broken down on the side of the highway the other day. Had a trailer mounted miller gas engine welder, and a job box, and one of these on the gooseneck trailer behind him:



Just looked up the weight just under 36,000. That would be a load on my semi. Trailer was a dual tandem, with spread axles on the rear, no way would I have taken down the road with it. On our way back there was a road side service truck working on the passenger side of the trailer, guessing tires or brakes.

 

[monster truck]

Here's one for you guys. We do this quite often around here

 

[fast1buzz]

I am in agreement with Digger242. I do NOT cross chain EXCEPT when the tire on the equipment does not allow the chain to run straight from the tie down on the machine to the D-ring or chain slot on my trailer.

I try to keep the distance from the tie down on the machine to the trailer as short as reasonably possible. When standing at the back of the trailer looking forward, I like to have chains as close to vertical as possible. When looking at the trailer from the side, I like to have the chains angles somewhere between 45 and 60 degrees. I haul lots of sprayers and combines, which are wider than the main deck on my trailer, making vertical chaining possible.

The D-rings on my trailer are rated for 7500 lbs and the chain slots are rated for 8000 lbs. I usually use the slots whenever possible. Grade 70 5/16" chain is heavy enough for most things I haul--if something is heavier, I use more chains.

We recently had a DOT officer put on a training seminar for our company. The way he explained chaining, if the chain leaves a tie-down, goes through a loop on the machine, and returns to the original tie down point, you can figure the whole weight rating of the chain. If the chain does not go to the same tie down point, it only counts for half of it's capacity. In this picture, if I understand the rules correctly, the chains could only count for half of their rated capacity.

I will try to remember to get some pictures of how I chain things down, now that I have a phone with a camera that works.

I would love to get that Nebraska DOT officer cornered and tell him why I was ticketed for the very same things he said were legal by a federal officer in Cheyene Wy. First the feds don't even recognize a 5/16 chain said it wasn't even legal for use even at its highest grade. Second a single chain is rated as a single length 6000 lbs for high grade 3/8 and 10000 lbs for 1/2 inch. The grade rating is stamped on the side of the links. It cost me $1000 to learn this. The chains as rated should equal or over the machine weight being hauled. Another words a machine weighing 52000 lbs you should have minimum 4 1/2 inch / with 2 3/8 inch 4@10000 2@6000 =52000 . They like to see if wrecked the machine still on and secured to the trailer.

 

[TVA]

Don’t like those angles! The sharper the angles the more that machine going to bounce, I don’t like to go farther then 2’ of a deck length from tie in point to anchoring point.

Have been crisscrossing chains for 20 years - now cops want to see four separate tie in points!

For me PITA is a asfalt pavers!