A few projects I have done recently

[Landclearer]

Thanks for the pics CM. That is a neat looking project. The pipe job does not look like much fun. Wouldn't have been as bad if it were not for the power. Did they give you an o-ring to put on the pipe before you put the band on? We used some 72 inch pipe and they gave you an o-ring, still did not seal very good though.

I think all building jobs are the same now. All the subs mess around so you can't get in and then all of a sudden the parking lot needs to be done and you are the one holding the whole job up. I know just how that dumpster got so heavy

 

[CM1995]

Yeah LC we had rubber gaskets that went on each end section of pipe and like you said it still didn't seal up very well. This was the first large CMP pipe we've laid and I'm not impressed with the quality. Also skeptical of the performance over it's life span.

I know just how that dumpster got so heavy

Well when I showed up it just pissed me off. This project is a 45 min drive one-way from our normal working area so when I got there I just started pushing trash up without any concern to sort the dirt out. A tandem load of dirt went in the dumpster that probably contained 2 or 3 skid buckets of trash if picked up by hand.

Not my problem..:yup

All the subs mess around so you can't get in and then all of a sudden the parking lot needs to be done and you are the one holding the whole job up.

You nailed it.

 

[CM1995]

I love that first picture. Squeeze in the 321 and let it earn its keep.


That last picture makes me wonder how some superintendents get their jobs. There are a couple different ways to handle that or to prevent it from becoming a recurring situation. The first is to handle his phone call in the same way that the phone company handles calls about problems with dsl service ( ....."Is the power supply plugged into the wall?" ....."Is your computer switched on?"...etc) : Is there anyone onsite currently working in that area? Has all debris been cleaned up? etc. You're basically doing the thinking part of his job at this point, but it might save you from mobbing to a job where you can do nothing.

The other approach that I like is to tell your customers that in order to "better serve your customers" you're diversifying your services and are now offering site cleanup services limited to the areas of the site where you are working. State your terms for this slightly expensive but optional service on the initial contract. When you get that call to mob in, ask if they want the change order for extra services. Either they'll get organized, or they'll pay you to do the organizing for them.

The 321 is a great machine, I wish I had two.

Yeah I always ask those questions if I haven't been to the job in a while but white lies are the backbone of cell phone supers...

The GC ended up paying extra tonnage at the landfill for the dirt in the dumpster.

 

[Landclearer]

Yeah LC we had rubber gaskets that went on each end section of pipe and like you said it still didn't seal up very well. This was the first large CMP pipe we've laid and I'm not impressed with the quality. Also skeptical of the performance over it's life span.




Well when I showed up it just pissed me off. This project is a 45 min drive one-way from our normal working area so when I got there I just started pushing trash up without any concern to sort the dirt out. A tandem load of dirt went in the dumpster that probably contained 2 or 3 skid buckets of trash if picked up by hand.

Not my problem..:yup



You nailed it.

Glad you said it first. I thought the stuff we laid was junk. Our was not corrugated, it was spun with a rib about every 8 inches. We had about 3 feet of cover over it in one area and another company drove a loader over a joint and fell through it. Not good! The guys that hauled it would come all hours of the day and night and if they got there and were weren't they would roll it off the truck and egg it.

I know just what you did and have done very similar things with trash on a site. I pushed a whole bundle of Hardee board up against a building and pushed dirt over top of it after they would not moved after three days of asking. Number one rule, don't **** off the site guy

 

[CM1995]

CMP is junk in my opinion LC as well. HDPE or concrete would be my choice if it were my project. I've removed many a LF of rusted out at the bottom CMP to install it on anything I would own.

Number one rule, don't **** off the site guy

You got that right!:thumbsup

 

[joispoi]

Yeah I always ask those questions if I haven't been to the job in a while but white lies are the backbone of cell phone supers...

I have a tough time understanding why someone would feel the need to do business that way. I'd expect it from a salesman that's looking for a one time transaction, but from someone that has to work with you for the duration of a project.....:beatsme

 

[d9gdon]

I have a tough time understanding why someone would feel the need to do business that way. I'd expect it from a salesman that's looking for a one time transaction, but from someone that has to work with you for the duration of a project.....:beatsme

It happens here too, it's their way of combatting no shows but ends up a pissing match.

 

[Browning_270]

CM what did you run for a everyday hoe before your 321?

 

[CM1995]

CM what did you run for a everyday hoe before your 321?

Welcome to the Forums Browning_270!:drinkup

In the past I've had 2 -315CL's, 321CL and a 325DL, not all at once but during the 2000's. The great recession hit and I got rid of the last 315. Between the last 315 and the current 321DL, our 420 backhoe and rental filled in for hoe work.

Out of all the hoes I've owned, I liked the 325DL the best.

 

[CM1995]

A couple of pics from last week at the condo project.

This is a double gutter inlet box, two curb grate inlets will set on top of this box. The box was heavy coming in at 8K lbs and located in a tight location.

The building's sewer line is seen in the foreground, it's about a foot deep.:cool2



Obviously had to go under the building sewer main which wasn't tough. What was tough was making the out line fit in the box to the yard inlet. We had to saw and beat on the box with a sledge to get the angle right, not fun.



A couple of joints of 18" RCP with mudded joints, per spec.



R2 still earning it's keep compacting around the lower single curb grate inlet. He's got a hydraulic leak in the front drum we'll have to fix when we can get him back to the shop.



Cleaning up and backfilling the lower line. Silt fence and caution tape installed around the inlet R2 was compacting.

 

[CM1995]

Backfilling the 18" RCP line that ties into the CMP detention system we installed the week before. Don't let that pretty red clay fool you, when it's dry it's a great material to work with but when it's wet it goes to ****e.



Spending a beautiful Saturday morning at the residential street project getting it wrapped up. Gas and underground power is installed, backfilling curbs and getting ready to grass.



Yeah I know it looks like crap but this material is a silty sand that does not like to stay in place. Walked it in the D5 but with new pads it just tears the surface up. It's good enough to grass and begin pouring slabs.

 

[Landclearer]

That is a good looking pipe job CM. Did you set the box with the 321? I sure am glad we don't have to mud the pipe joints. I guess if you had ground water while you were laying it would be nearly impossible to mud them.

 

[CM1995]

LC the civil spec'd mudded joints on both the inside and outside of the pipe, I've never had an engineer to spec that before. During the contract execution stage, I did send an RFI to the PM and told him I didn't employ anyone small enough to mud the inside of 18" RCP.

Interesting side note on the tree in the pic above with the 321 next to the building. The funny looking tree in the background is a Ginko and estimated by the landscape architect to be 150-200 years old. We stayed far away from that tree..:cool2

 

[Landclearer]

That would suck some kinda bad trying to mud the inside of an 18 inch pipe. You would need a 10 year old kid laying down in a skateboard

Don't blame you for staying away from that tree. I can hear it now"the site work guy damaged the roots and killed it". I had to look up Ginko trees. I found it interesting that they do well in city's with poor air quality.

 

[CM1995]

LC I didn't know much about the Ginko either until this project. They are a very old tree species, been around a lot longer than civilization.

Now for the frustratingly funny part of this project. There was a designated tree save area on the other end of the project to protect two large "oak" trees. All demolition had to be done by hand which included two driveways within the drip line and tree protection fencing. We show up on site to start work and it's apparent that one of the "oaks" designated by the landscape architect is in a fact a sweet gum.

We perform the hand demo and put up the tree save fence. 2 months later lighting strikes the sweet gum and damn near splits it in half. GC has tree service come in and remove tree and grind stump.

Now there was nothing on the plans other than a note to take care around the ginkgo tree.:beatsme Gotta love landscape architects.

LOL, I was going to put in my RFI that due to the fact I don't employ children I can't meet the spec to mud the inside of an 18" pipe but I digressed and went the diplomatic route.

 

[willie59]

LC I didn't know much about the Ginko either until this project. They are a very old tree species, been around a lot longer than civilization.

Now for the frustratingly funny part of this project. There was a designated tree save area on the other end of the project to protect two large "oak" trees. All demolition had to be done by hand which included two driveways within the drip line and tree protection fencing. We show up on site to start work and it's apparent that one of the "oaks" designated by the landscape architect is in a fact a sweet gum.

Now that's just damn funny! :falldownlaugh

We perform the hand demo and put up the tree save fence. 2 months later lighting strikes the sweet gum and damn near splits it in half. GC has tree service come in and remove tree and grind stump.

Similar thing happened here a few years ago, two large oak trees on a site were designated as "do not touch". Had a storm come through here with major micro-burst winds (knocked me out of power for 7 days), did a lot of damage in this area, and tore those two trees all to hell. Sometimes "acts of God" don't co-operate with mans best plans.

LOL, I was going to put in my RFI that due to the fact I don't employ children I can't meet the spec to mud the inside of an 18" pipe but I digressed and went the diplomatic route.

Oh you should have, I would love to hear the rest of that story.

 

[CM1995]

Now that's just damn funny!

We all had a good laugh about it Willie. No telling how much the LA is charging for his design and oversight services and can't tell an oak from a sweet gum.:beatsme:cool2

 

[Todd v.]

Now that's just damn funny! :falldownlaugh



Similar thing happened here a few years ago, two large oak trees on a site were designated as "do not touch". Had a storm come through here with major micro-burst winds (knocked me out of power for 7 days), did a lot of damage in this area, and tore those two trees all to hell. Sometimes "acts of God" don't co-operate with mans best plans.



Oh you should have, I would love to hear the rest of that story.

I see that a bit when people pick out trees they want to keep out of the forrest. When you remove the forrest from around a tree they like to fall over when the full force of the wind hits them. Root system grow accoding to demand.

 

[Landclearer]

It is hard to believe some of the trees that they protect. More than once we have had a dead tree barricaded and the it is big deal if you ask if they want it down. Lightning striking the gum was pretty funny. I am surprised they did not have to get the city people to come out and look at it to make sure it actually struck.

 

[Aliate]

Cory, how come you don't do you own sewer/water? And I love that 321, looks perfect for utility work.