''steep slopes on dozers''

[white_boyz1]

What are some of the steepest slopes you guys have ever encountered?im currently working on a pond with some one to ones,the dozer is a 2007 d6n lgp.the materials are medium,hard red clay this thing sticks like glue.gimme some feedback on this one...by the way i love those slopes..... :cool2 :drinkup

 

[Construct'O]

What are some of the steepest slopes you guys have ever encountered?im currently working on a pond with some one to ones,the dozer is a 2007 d6n lgp.the materials are medium,hard red clay this thing sticks like glue.gimme some feedback on this one...by the way i love those slopes..... :cool2 :drinkup

Are the slopes for the fill of the pond on just the outside waterline slopes? How long or high is the fill?

Are they being checked by your inspector and do they have to be right on the money?

How wide are the pads on your D6N LGP>>>>> 36" or less?????

How about a few pics
Good luck:usa

 

[white_boyz1]

slopes

inspector yes.slope line goes from crown to base elev on pond..bout twenty feet deep..36'' standard pads

 

[Construct'O]

inspector yes.slope line goes from crown to base elev on pond..bout twenty feet deep..36'' standard pads

1 to 1 slopes seems really steep for a pond ! Here they are 2 1/2 to 1 and have changed over to 3 to 1 the last few years.

Is there a reason for the steepness.

2 to 1 is the steepest(running sideways) i have been on with my D6R 24 inch pads.With the wide tracks and a little smaller(lighter machine it would probably hang on the slopes).You might have to run them up and down?

Will you have dirt to work with as in a windrow to run done the slope to help hold you up? or do you have it closer and just shaping the slope.

I know lots of question,but trying to get an idea what your having to work with.With that how much water is at the bottom or mud?Good luck.

 

[white_boyz1]

slopes

detention pond for large furniture store with very little room for pond.we cut most of the bulk dirt with my 320clu then just fine tune with 6.we tend to carry a lil dirt on bottom edge.we have a d6k that dont like the slope as much as the high track.

 

[white_boyz1]

pond slopes

:drinkup by the way pond is new and very dryyyyyyyyyyyy.no rain here in weeks

 

[biggixxerjim]

Ive run a D6H on like a 3-2 slope, it was slow going but still had traction on the high side. Our JD 450H LGP can be run on a 1 on 1 slope, if not a little more

To think of it, the only time that high drive did lose traction, the whole machine slid down the hill sideways.

 

[white_boyz1]

high track

they tend to lift a track side more often then slide on dry ground.beware if its a lil wet.todabottomugo..

 

[biggixxerjim]

1 to 1 slopes seems really steep for a pond ! Here they are 2 1/2 to 1 and have changed over to 3 to 1 the last few years.

When land is scarce, and ever tightening restrictions requires you to build much more infrastructure per person, things get pushed to the edges, figuratively and literally.

 

[DPete]

We're talking about a 1:1 that's 45 degrees which is the angle most material falls at and you can stay on that sideways with a D6??:cool2 DP

 

[72V]

I'd like to see somebody actually operate a cat sidehill on a 1:1 slope. I might even buy tickets and popcorn.

A 2:1 is darned steep when you're in the seat. That's about the same as running over a three foot boulder with one track of a D6.

 

[catd4g]

1:1

Our Cat D4g lgp will stick to a 1:1 no problem or greater if levee material is good. Run it up and down then dress it sideways.

 

[Deas Plant]

Working on Slopes

Hi, White_Boyz1.
1:1 is a steep slope for a dam or pond but I suspect that this one won't have livestock drinking from it so that slope won't be a problem that way.

It has always been my understanding that spill slope for most soils is around 1.5:1. When compacted, many soil types will stand at closer to 1:1 as you build a batter up from the bottom. I also understand that Cat manufactures ALL its dozers to meet US Military stability requirements for tipping Which means that the tipping angle must be greater than 45 deg.. Most dozers will start to slide sideways from about 1.5:1 onwards. Wide gauge machines have a definite edge in the stability department but are still prone to slide after 1.5:1.

I'm with 72V here. I'd like to see a standard, wide gauge or LGP dozer that can run a 1:1 slope sideways without difficulty. I'll accept that it can be done with some dozers IF you are following the batter down as it is cut and you have a windrow under the low side to stop the machine sliding. Side-cutting an already cut batter down from the top with NOTHING to stop it sliding is a whole different ball game.

All standard crawler tractors are more stable up and down slopes than they are on side slopes. Many dozers will climb 1:1 or steeper face first but few will back up as steep a slope as they will climb forward. None that I know of will push anything like a full blade up a 1:1 slope. More like 10-20% of a full blade - in GOOD traction.

Let the debate rage - - - peacefully, I hope.

 

[Deas Plant]

Slope Chart

Hi, Folks.
Here is a slope chart, courtesy of Swishy on the old ACMOC bulletin board. What this slope chart does not show is the line for 1.5:1, which is 75%, or about 37 degrees. You can draw your own imaginary - or real - line through that slope if you wish.

 

[DPete]

I'd like to see somebody actually operate a cat sidehill on a 1:1 slope.

Me too! DP

 

[Deas Plant]

Sidehill on 1:1

Hi, Folks.
I know a couple of crawlers that I'd back to stay upright on a 1:1 slope - - - IF they didn't slide. The old Cletrac HG68/Oliver OC3-wide was an ultra wide guage crawler, especially in relation to its overall height, and TerraTrac made several models that were of a similar configuration. The TerraTrac crawlers eventually became Case in about 1949.

These photos are, in order, 2 photos of a somewhat modified Oliver Cletrac OC3 wide crawler, a normal wide OC3, a Cletrac HG68, 68 inch guage and slightly weatherbeaten, and a 1948 TerraTrac crawler which I think is a TerraTrac 400 but don't quote me.

 

[JimBruce42]

D6r lgp across a 1:1. I wouldn't believe it either if I hadn't see this guy doing just that.:drinkup :cool2


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[Construct'O]

D6r lgp across a 1:1. I wouldn't believe it either if I hadn't see this guy doing just that.:drinkup :cool2


http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aicatd6rlgp2me4.jpg

If he was at the top of the stockpile running the slope i would say 1:1,but where he is and at the bottom looks to be closer to a 2:1.

If the gps say 1:1 then be it!!!!!!! What do i know:beatsme

 

[LDK]

If he was at the top of the stockpile running the slope i would say 1:1,but where he is and at the bottom looks to be closer to a 2:1.

If the gps say 1:1 then be it!!!!!!! What do i know:beatsme

Hey I'm with you, it don't look like a 1 in 1 to me?

 

[JimBruce42]

Hey I'm with you, it don't look like a 1 in 1 to me?

It may have varied from 1:1 and 1.5:1:beatsme but I do know it was vary steep, we're hogging out a prebench for a sanitary line, so it wasn't programmed into the GPS file, just trying to keep the footprint small. I think we did a pretty good job. The dozer operator has to sit on an armrest when he does this though, lol:drinkup