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Lashlander

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After conversing with lowboy about pavers I came back and looked this thread up. Now I'm wondering what the purpose of the shuttle buggy is? Any paving jobs I've been around that they have used end dumps on they just dumped into the paver. Why dump it into a hopper that conveys it to another hopper that conveys it to the hopper on the paver? Looks like an expensive machine and at least one extra man on the crew to use it.:idontgetit
 

jimmyjack

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the reason i've been told was you have the buggie feeding the paver instead of the trucks so you don't have to stop. with the paver full than the buggie full theres time to shuffle one truck out and line the next up, you dont want to stop because the screed on the paver will settle leaving a dip in the road suface. so no stopping, no dips

hope that helps:)
 

Lashlander

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Thanks Jimmyjack. I've always made it a point to stay as far away from the paving crew as I could. I was always afraid I'd get stuck on a roller.
 

CM1995

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Thanks Jimmyjack. I've always made it a point to stay as far away from the paving crew as I could. .

I heard that! Me and hot asphalt just don't jive to well. I have the utmost respect for the guys that work on a paving crew. All I need to renew my respect for hot mix is patch a few holes every few years or so.

I was always afraid I'd get stuck on a roller.

My fear is the shovel!
 

MKTEF

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I buy your explanation for the buggie.

But u wount find one of those here around.
Then i see the need for one when u pave like shown in the video's.

In Norway the paving trucks normaly are the same gang year after year. So they got a second dumpster for the truck.
This asphalt dumpster is rounded and insulated with a tarpoulin roof.
This way u get a homogenious asphalt with the same temperatur all through.

This way u dont need to mix it before putting it in the paver.
Before theese came around u could look at the road and see on the surface where a new load was getting in the paver.

Then all the trucks have radio controlled hydraulics on the truck.
The paving crew got the controll. The trucker stops in front of the paver and the paver contacts with it and then the paver guys controll the tipping of the dumpster on the truck.(a switch in the trucks turn the radiosystem on when u are ready in front of the paver)
The teams are so drilled on this, that there is no stop on the paver when laying it out.

Have posted a couple of pictures of the equipment used.
This pupp and the truck is a normal combination here around.
Max total weight here is 110 000Lbs for the combination.(max legal)

U dump the pupp first, another guy dumps his load while u park the pupp and then u dump the truck.
 

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CM1995

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MKTEF - good pictures as usual. That is pretty interesting about the paver having radio remote of the dump truck. I bet those guys go through alot of training and work quite well together as a team. What kind of insulation do those asphalt dumps have? From the pictures it looks like an aluminum skin on the outside with the insulation between it and the steel body - similar to what I have seen. Those cabovers still look strange to me especially on a dump truck. I don't believe we have a new cabover Class 8 truck for sale in the states. Are these cabovers used in Europe for the increased visability/maneuverability?

Now if I could just get one of those remote controll systems on the trucks we use dumping fill - the only difference I would want the ability to drive the truck when it gets on the pad. That way I could get the load where I needed it - instead of the wrong place the drivers usually want to put it.:D
 

MKTEF

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Hey CM1995.

I don't do asphalt work on a daily basis. So im not realy an expert on it.:(
When we need some, we just get it in our ordinary dumper trucks.

I know that there is 50mm/1,9inch insulation between the steel and the alu sheeting.
And theese dumpsters is realy light.
I should also point out that the round shape reduces separation of the asphalt too.

The cabovers is a must, because of the length regulations in the whole europe.
There is a max lenght on every type of vehicle and truck/trailer combination.
A nose on the truck makes u loose 3-6 feet of loading area.
The only guy's that can use a truck like yours, is those transporting goods that are heavy and have a low volume.

There is a easier way than R/C controlled trucks.
Show that u are the boss, and have some punishment "things" at hand.
Works very well in the countries i visit; Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait...
Seriously: Meet them at the gate and give them good instructions, and i bet they do as u want.

Here is a story around that:
On a truck stop her in Norway some Finnish truckers rolled in. They parked and they didn't lock their doors.
Went inside and had a meal.
They watched their trucks trough the window.

Another driver climbes inside one of their trucks and snoops around...Ooppps

This is not the guy's u want to fuss with.
Guy's from Finland are known to have a short fuse.

Four big Finnish guy's rushed out, grabbed the smart ass.
Two guys holding his fingers on top of the front bumper. Third guy with a hammer.
Ten blue ones before the let him go.:eek:

I bet he dosen't do that anymore.

We had a controll guy in the DOT some years ago. U know a pain in the.. yeah, i bet u know the type.
He made everybody very angry and got a lot of complaints. Got moved from one district to another.

He was beaten real bad by some Finnish guy's, they didn't axept his behavour.
So he didn't stop any Finnish trucks after that.:p
But treat them as any other, and they are real nice guy's.:)
 

stevinmonteur

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paving in a tunnel

tunnel paving in the roertunnel, roermond, netherlands
 

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MKTEF

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Realy nice pictures Stevin.

U deserve a lot of credit for taking and posting all these nice pictures.
:drinkup :drinkup :drinkup :drinkup :drinkup :drinkup

Sorry that it's not so many pawers around here commenting your nice pictures.:cool2
 
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