Ah, like boxers or briefs. I learned on a cat, and only own cat, except bobcat mini ex. I am actually thinking about going to bobcat hand foot from joysticks. I have noticed that with bobcat controls, its eaiser to keep straight when cold planning, and the excellerate faster when trying to scoop that last bit of rubble off the asphalt. And i have a friend who doesnt own a grease gun or have an employee who cares about anything, and he had 12 bobcats and never had a mechanical issue. I told him to get with it an start buying cat, cat courted him and he bought a skid and mini ex. the skid had lost a motor at 500hrs and he ended up dumping both. Lastly, Cat parts are expensive and service expensive. Yet I still only use cat, i guess i wish i would have learned hand foot controls and stuck with them.
