elimn8r475
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any one tried out the new 210? how do they compare to the w2100?
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wirtgen 210
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milling_drum
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A company in North Carolina called Delta Contracting had one, I think its for sale now on Machinerytrader.com. Saw it last year while passing through on my way back to Florida.
Toegrinder
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We just got our 210 in a couple weeks ago. Obviously I probably won't to get to try it out til march or so. But from what our local wirtgen sales guy said, the 210 does very well and stays right with a 2100 in 3" or less, but 3" or more and the 2100 will walk away from it no problem. I don't know where he got that info and won't buy it unless I see it.
It is definitely a nice machine though and can't wait to run it.
Toegrinder
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Also forgot to mention, it is a lot smaller than I expected, pretty much identical to a W2000.
milling_drum
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In the video they show the operator sitting down all the time. I've never been comfortable sitting as a mill operator but This machine makes it quite feasible for the operator to have a good eye shot of whats up while milling. Biggest drawback I had sitting down was loading the truck, hard to see the entire body front to back.
Toegrinder
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I agree with you John, I have never been big on sitting down when milling. But to me its more than not being able to see in the truck, I just hate not being able to walk around and see what's going on. But lucky for you they have a camera on the end of the conveyor so you can see in the truck 
I'm sure you knew that already though. I have been tinkering with ours and its unreal the stuff the mill will do. The wirtgen school didn't teach me anything I didn't already know, but it would be very helpful to someone just getting into milling or moving over to wirtgen.
I'm sure you knew that already though. I have been tinkering with ours and its unreal the stuff the mill will do. The wirtgen school didn't teach me anything I didn't already know, but it would be very helpful to someone just getting into milling or moving over to wirtgen.
milling_drum
Senior Member
A Camera on the Boom? That 2200 I just came off running had a Camera mounted on the rear end for backing up (I guess) but didn't have the screen.
Keeping a Boom Camera clean will be interesting. Control of the water to the conveyor might be the trick,
Wirtgen School would be great for learning about Wirtgens, otherwise they make a smart enough machine that the operators really don't have to know much to run one.
Keeping a Boom Camera clean will be interesting. Control of the water to the conveyor might be the trick,
Wirtgen School would be great for learning about Wirtgens, otherwise they make a smart enough machine that the operators really don't have to know much to run one.
Toegrinder
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There is actually 7 cameras on it. One on back, one on the conveyor, one on each side directly behind the cutter box, and two on each side in front me the cutter box
hoosier
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The company I am with purchased a 210 a couple weeks ago.
Will be delivered early April so they gave us a 200 to burn up in the meantime,like the seats on the 200/210 will make sitting down while milling much easier and more comfortable,only thing it needs is a cup holder in the armrests.
Will be delivered early April so they gave us a 200 to burn up in the meantime,like the seats on the 200/210 will make sitting down while milling much easier and more comfortable,only thing it needs is a cup holder in the armrests.
Toegrinder
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The company I am with purchased a 210 a couple weeks ago.
Will be delivered early April so they gave us a 200 to burn up in the meantime,like the seats on the 200/210 will make sitting down while milling much easier and more comfortable,only thing it needs is a cup holder in the armrests.
We ran our 210 for the first time a couple weeks ago, 4-10" in place. Between 4-8" the load on the machine or speed didn't change one bit. We were doing 40 fpm up to 8" and bout 36 fpm at 10". That thing is a beast and a dream, and makes yours and the groundmans job way too easy..
hoosier
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It sounds like a beast...
From what I am hearing from the crew on the 200, is that machine is also a dream.
I have heard we are going to keep the 200 ,after the 210 is delivered.
The mgr is at conex now so maybe he will bring back a 12 ft'er which we need badly or a red/white/blue machine.
From what I am hearing from the crew on the 200, is that machine is also a dream.
I have heard we are going to keep the 200 ,after the 210 is delivered.
The mgr is at conex now so maybe he will bring back a 12 ft'er which we need badly or a red/white/blue machine.
milling_drum
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http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWxoc-H2tVw&NR=1
Looks like that machine can handle heavy loads pretty well but....
Looks like that machine can handle heavy loads pretty well but....
Toegrinder
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jenstarltd
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Hi everyone I have 1100 hrs on our 210 and have been trying to resolve the rear traction issue, Wirtgen has tried with computer updates but with no luck comments welcome.
Here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk2czOrpIPg&NR=1&feature=fvwp its youtube (Wirtgen W210 rear traction problems)
Here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk2czOrpIPg&NR=1&feature=fvwp its youtube (Wirtgen W210 rear traction problems)
jenstarltd
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Hey milling_drum you are right Miller Group bought Smiths Construction we sub for Miller and Smith in this area. We do rumble strips with our W60 rumbler II 2 miles an hour.
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milling_drum
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Thats cool, one of Millers operators (I noticed he's on your yourtube page) has a video of himself running what looks to be a W600 rumble stripping on the 401 in the middle of winter. hahaha
Down in Georgia I ran Millers rumble stripper down there, we were getting 1.5, close to 2 miles a day. They spec pretty hard on rumble strips down that way and sometimes it was necessary to slow down. (when they turned around it became haul ass time again again
I commented over at Youtube about what might be something going on with your rear tracks slipping but I gotta tell ya, over the years since Wirtgen started mass producing mills, one came out perfect, two machines behind it off the assembly line came out kinda a mess and would NEVER run right no matter how many fixes or tweaks they would give it. Sometimes they were healed whatever ailment, sometimes they weren't. I dunno if that helps you but I've been seeing that with Wirtgen equipment since the Mid 90's at Miller in Canada. The company I started out with up there, D Crupi & Sons, wouldn't buy a Wirtgen. They Demo'ed one in 1992 but wouldn't buy it. They stuck to CAT and CMI and paid the price over there too
Down in Georgia I ran Millers rumble stripper down there, we were getting 1.5, close to 2 miles a day. They spec pretty hard on rumble strips down that way and sometimes it was necessary to slow down. (when they turned around it became haul ass time again again
I commented over at Youtube about what might be something going on with your rear tracks slipping but I gotta tell ya, over the years since Wirtgen started mass producing mills, one came out perfect, two machines behind it off the assembly line came out kinda a mess and would NEVER run right no matter how many fixes or tweaks they would give it. Sometimes they were healed whatever ailment, sometimes they weren't. I dunno if that helps you but I've been seeing that with Wirtgen equipment since the Mid 90's at Miller in Canada. The company I started out with up there, D Crupi & Sons, wouldn't buy a Wirtgen. They Demo'ed one in 1992 but wouldn't buy it. They stuck to CAT and CMI and paid the price over there too
jenstarltd
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I know what you mean my W60 needed a new gearbox at 100 hrs but they come good for they're mistakes . I remember Miller with that giant CMI 12 ft in 95 or 96 on the 401 at Brockville . I didn't have mills then I had sweepers on pickup trucks . We could have crossed paths. Did you know Ken Kong that crazy f#%ker. Ya small world. Have you ever run the cat with the weld on holders that looks like a nightmare ,you can't beat the quick change drum. Chow for now, Mark
milling_drum
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LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO Holy S**T ya I know those dudes!!! Did you know Ken Malloy? King Kong was his operator. They were both lunatics. One weekend it took me 3 days to get away from them back to Toronto just so I could barely do Laundry and get back to the 417 where Miller was working....They had me with them driving around after 6 or 7 cases of Molson, no lights in the service truck on county rds shooting at signs....1995 was the year I was with Miller up there, '87 to '92 was D crupi. WoW whatta flash back when you mention those names....Ken Malloy finally got fired for getting on the mill and taking a **** off the side of it while going over a bridge deck with all the big wigs from Miller watching, when I heard that my stomach hurt from laffing.
The Bunch in Georgia were equally crazy. Miller in Toronto used to farm the mills to Georgia when they needed fixing. We used to get them from Talon Sebeq, New Brunswick Industrial cold milling. After I quit the Georgia Division in 1998, Donny V. the supt at the time (they were all CMI then) calls me up and tells me he has a brand new Wirtgen he needs me too run cuz none of them there knew anything about them. I get in the yard and see this machine up on blocks (it aint new at all) DC2100 with worn out track pads on the left front track...the EXACT same one I had been with when it was new in Toronto back in 1995....The CMI 12ft machine you saw was from Georgia, Toronto didn't have one. Kevin Kirkwood the foremen told me about going up there that year...
Wow...the memories...For sure we met each other at some point that summer, prolly that hotel just outside Ottawa where they kept a room just for the cases of beer...hahahaha
You might have swept for us when we did a job at the hospital in town that year, I remember something about them needing a special sweeper for that job.
Wirtgen will always keep the customer happy, it ain't anyones fault what happens on the production line.
The Bunch in Georgia were equally crazy. Miller in Toronto used to farm the mills to Georgia when they needed fixing. We used to get them from Talon Sebeq, New Brunswick Industrial cold milling. After I quit the Georgia Division in 1998, Donny V. the supt at the time (they were all CMI then) calls me up and tells me he has a brand new Wirtgen he needs me too run cuz none of them there knew anything about them. I get in the yard and see this machine up on blocks (it aint new at all) DC2100 with worn out track pads on the left front track...the EXACT same one I had been with when it was new in Toronto back in 1995....The CMI 12ft machine you saw was from Georgia, Toronto didn't have one. Kevin Kirkwood the foremen told me about going up there that year...
Wow...the memories...For sure we met each other at some point that summer, prolly that hotel just outside Ottawa where they kept a room just for the cases of beer...hahahaha
You might have swept for us when we did a job at the hospital in town that year, I remember something about them needing a special sweeper for that job.
Wirtgen will always keep the customer happy, it ain't anyones fault what happens on the production line.
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jenstarltd
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I gotta ? can the 210 pulverize in reverse because the drum spins when you back up.
Hey milling_drum I gotta story for you after Ken got fired he came to see me about a job when I bought my first w500 I said no .LOL he treated me like sh#t then the table turned.Were u up here doing the 417 with Miller Georgia 12ft drum I remember that.
Hey milling_drum I gotta story for you after Ken got fired he came to see me about a job when I bought my first w500 I said no .LOL he treated me like sh#t then the table turned.Were u up here doing the 417 with Miller Georgia 12ft drum I remember that.
milling_drum
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At the time of that job I was with the Miller operation from Toronto, we had the W2100 on that job. The 1050 was stuck at the border and the 2100 was covering for it getting started. By the time the group from Atlanta got to town I was already up in Arnprior with the Ingersoll. Ken and King Kong had the 2100 for a few months that year.
I wouldn't try pulverizing with any mill, I've done it and it sucks because of the drum design. The flighting isn't right for it. Small jobs wouldn't hurt but anything past a few days would most likely cause some serious damage. The drum not shutting off in reverse is strange, I've seen some Wirtgens that will reverse with the drum on, but most won't.
I wouldn't try pulverizing with any mill, I've done it and it sucks because of the drum design. The flighting isn't right for it. Small jobs wouldn't hurt but anything past a few days would most likely cause some serious damage. The drum not shutting off in reverse is strange, I've seen some Wirtgens that will reverse with the drum on, but most won't.