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Muddy Komatsu dumper

willie59

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Had to play in mud yesterday. Drove to a jobsite in Sevierville where we have a Komatsu CD60R on rent. Guy said all hydraulics work except drive and there's a bunch of oil on the ground under the machine. What I found was the loader operator can't hit a dump bed. Had been dumping dirt and rocks on cab, air filter housing, and engine cover. The material had fallen down to the center rotary joint where a rock lodged against a fitting on the swivel. When they rotated the machine, snapped off the fitting. Gather up some cardboard so I didn't have to wallow in hyd oil on the ground to get 'em fixed up. Job boss said he was going to get on his loader operator for missing the bed. I told him all he has to do is tell him if he keeps loading the cab, he's going to see a picture of a CD60R on his paycheck. :D




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Thats a real shame. Ther is no excuse for loading like that, let it spill over the back and clean it up if the loaders too big. If I'd been the driver me and that loader hand would have a little powwow. :nono
 

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No excuse for poor loading but why don't those trucks have cab shields?:beatsme
 

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In the first pic it looks like he's been hitting the top of the headache rack behind the cab with the bucket too. Do you charge for abuse like this? Wonder if he's banging the bucket around to get the slop to clean out of it?
 

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In the first pic it looks like he's been hitting the top of the headache rack behind the cab with the bucket too. Do you charge for abuse like this? Wonder if he's banging the bucket around to get the slop to clean out of it?


I guess it's possible. I didn't check the machine before it went out on rent, someone else did. Machine has been on rent several times, dents may have already been there. And yes, we do charge for repairs to a machine if a customer has damaged it, and the boss said he was considering charging them for this road trip as it was all the rocks they had dump in the center joint that broke the fitting. I did remind him exactly what CM1995 said, most dumps, whether truck or construction vehicle, have cab protection, which I recommended we add to these machines. And yes, the dirt was real sticky red clay. Just walking around in it made my boots weigh ten pounds in a hurry. As for missing the bed, still pretty lame if you ask me, as they were using a Bobcat CTL to load it with. That's like missing a wheel barrow with a shovel. :D
 

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As for missing the bed, still pretty lame if you ask me, as they were using a Bobcat CTL to load it with. That's like missing a wheel barrow with a shovel. :D

The southerner is gonna come out of me now - "whoever is runnin' that Bobcat needs an ass whoopin'!":bash:ban
 

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The southerner is gonna come out of me now - "whoever is runnin' that Bobcat needs an ass whoopin'!":bash:ban

I'll agree to that, but in the words of Ron White:"You just can't fix stoopid."
 

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That is a real neat looking dumper. i have only seen a few pics of these and had no idea that the swing on a table. how stable are these things when you are trying to dump something sticky over the side though?

Would probably be real handy for backfill though not having to back up to your hole just get along side it?
 

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that's what happens when you hire laborers instead of operators...

half the wages ... usually equal twice the repair bills
 

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The southerner is gonna come out of me now - "whoever is runnin' that Bobcat needs an ass whoopin'!":bash:ban

LoL, that's funny CM, as a similar thought crossed my mind. But since I was dealing directly with a customer, thought it best to mind my manners, when I wanted to say was "whoever's runnin' the Bobcat needs a Tennessee dog whoopin'!" :D



That is a real neat looking dumper. i have only seen a few pics of these and had no idea that the swing on a table. how stable are these things when you are trying to dump something sticky over the side though?

Would probably be real handy for backfill though not having to back up to your hole just get along side it?


I suppose they're relatively stable excav8r, we've never had anyone tip one backwards or otherwise, and I've seen them operated in some rough areas. The rotating feature of these machines are actually built from the base of a Komatsu PC75 excavator, so they're sturdy components, and it's 360 deg rotation, just like an excavator. Being able to rotate does allow you to place material in ways that are more limiting to normal track dumpers. :)
 

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here's a pic of a new one... looks a little safer
It doesn't appear to have guards on the bed just... the cab​
 

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Hey, nice pics heavylift. ;)

I guess when you look at the compact design of these machine, it really comes down to some common sense, the loader operator has got to use his head and realize he ain't loading a triple 7 Cat haul truck. But, sadly, it's like I've said for years; operators are like peanut butter, they come in two flavors...smooth or crunchy. Looks like we got a crunchy one on this one. :tong
 

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Like others theres absolutely no excuses for loadin like that. I d have a massive smothering spell if it was mine. Like mentioned earlier someones got a laborer on a loader. I worked for a company that had a few hands like that. THey got on with the good ole boy system. One was loading shot rock into a mobile track crusher with an 18 foot hopper. He was on a 250 Komatsu with a 9 foot bucket. He called and told me needed the skid steer to come up and dig the crusher out. He had parked the crusher hemmed in between his product and shot rock all the way around. even ontop of the machine itself. He learned a lesson on how to hit a hopper after having to totethe rocks to his bucket by hand and cleaning the machine off.
 

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He learned a lesson on how to hit a hopper after having to tote the rocks to his bucket by hand and cleaning the machine off.


LoL, so you told him "no, your not getting a Bobcat!" :D

Sounds like a perfect solution to deal with an obvious laborer that's been placed in a machine. We give you the perfect machine for the job, you make a mess with it, now you get to carry the rocks by hand and place them back in the bucket of the perfect machine...makes perfect sense. ;)
 
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LoL, so you told him "no, your not getting a Bobcat!" :D

Sounds like a perfect solution to deal with an obvious laborer that's been placed in a machine. We give you the perfect machine for the job, you make a mess with it, now you get to carry the rocks by hand and place them back in the bucket of the perfect machine...makes perfect sense. ;)

Also works for operators that don't take care around silt fencing. "See you tomorrow", ummm not yet. Here's a shovel and sledge.....:rolleyes:
 

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arrrrgh! i hate silt fence.
 

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Aaaaaah - I still don't get those stupid things, anyway.

Those things cost BIG, BIG money - you know what the capacity of that toy is?
13,000 pounds, that's right - 4 yards of mud a clip, that's it.
But wait - oh it can spin around and do a fancy dance - TOY!

Rather have an LGP loader for a comparable cost that can perform 50 other duties as well when the mud dries out.

The Komatsu 110 has a 300 size bottom on it too!
They call that one 10 yards - that's pushing it. You need a big side board to carry that volume on those tiny dump bodies. The reason for the low weight cap. is it all has to spin on the rotec........TOY
So they'll be no arguement about cheaper run costs on these toys compared to a real machine like a loader.;)

Done with the rant now.
 
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