How to get a large tire back on the rim

[treemuncher]

Know a guy who filled a tire the same on the side of the road. He woke up on his back in the cat-tails in the ditch. Inner tire had grenaded when filling. He had glasses on that saved his eyes from the dirt.
Can never be too careful.
Simon C

I had the same thing happed to me at the shop when filling an inner tire on my F550. Inner tire exploded while I had the chuck pressed on to fill it. It was close to 100 psi when it went. No major blast to me, thankfully, but ringing ears and a bit more hate for those Continentals. I know I was lucky on that one.

 

[Truck Shop]

You guys have been mighty lucky with inside tires exploding--thank your lucky stars.

 

[ThatGuysFarm]

Back in 2020 I blew the front steer tire on my 6x6 crane while I was going 65mph down the highway with the cruise set. Was a little exciting to get the big girl slowed down and pulled over. I had a spare on the back that was missing a lug but was still in good shape. I got the old tire off, and new tire on (thank goodness for down riggers!) with a couple alignment bars, then the only air I had was on the ole International service truck with a screw compressor. Hooked that up with the ratchet strap trick and couldn't quite get it, but I had an entire shelf in the service truck full of grain bin caulking, so I caulked about 5 tubes into the bead until she finally seated and popped and blew it all over me! But with that I made it the last 90 miles home on a Sunday afternoon, building grain bins was always an adventure. By the way, the tire guys were not impressed with me when they had to change that tire out....

 

[cfherrman]

Tilt lock chucks are great.

I mount the tire to the truck typically when I seat beads, I'm glad I don't do that much and don't have problems yet

 

[1466IH]

Back in 2020 I blew the front steer tire on my 6x6 crane while I was going 65mph down the highway with the cruise set. Was a little exciting to get the big girl slowed down and pulled over. I had a spare on the back that was missing a lug but was still in good shape. I got the old tire off, and new tire on (thank goodness for down riggers!) with a couple alignment bars, then the only air I had was on the ole International service truck with a screw compressor. Hooked that up with the ratchet strap trick and couldn't quite get it, but I had an entire shelf in the service truck full of grain bin caulking, so I caulked about 5 tubes into the bead until she finally seated and popped and blew it all over me! But with that I made it the last 90 miles home on a Sunday afternoon, building grain bins was always an adventure. By the way, the tire guys were not impressed with me when they had to change that tire out....

I really do not miss putting up bins.


I always use an inflator with an 8' hose or for big equipment tires or when i have several things going on at once I will use a good air pressure regulator set to correct pressure and a 25' hose and walk away. Never far enough away that I cant keep an eye on a bead slipping off or some other malfunction but far enough I am out of harms way. Also learned as a young kid to keep anything that could become a projectile away from anything with stored energy. I was 8-9 years old when airing my bicycle tire and the old compressor tank of grandpa's let go. I was incredibly fortunate in only having a cut behind my ear but there was 2 brand new boxes of sickle sections and a pile of new guards laying next to the compressor that flew everywhere when the tank let go.

 

[Truck Shop]

Some years ago late 70's I suppose, a Tree Top facility in Cashmere Wa. had a new entrance
to building added one night. Pressure regulator failed and pressure relief failed also according
to investigators. It blew a section of concrete block wall out some 15' x 12'. In my last 30 years
working in shops I always had a rule that air compressors had to be shut off after hours and
weekends.
My brother inlaw was a welder for John Deere dealer in Sacramento in 70's. He was busy
welding when another worker operating a crawler ran over a 1" air hose cutting it in two.
It whipped and hit him in the head, which caused him constant ringing and white noise plus
a loss of balance for the rest of his life.

 

[terex herder]

Main shop has compressor wired through lighting contactor. If the center row of lights is off the compressor is off.

What does anyone recommend for clip on chucks for duals? I have the kind with grooves inside to grab the stem, but that's only half effective.

 

[HarleyHappy]

My father cobbled together a POS air compressor for a second garage and had to invent and build a looped pipe for a dryer for painting. One day after school before dad got home, the dryer blew a hole and pressure regulator stuck on compressor and me and my brother watched as it launched through 2 garage door sections and flew a 150’ down the driveway and across the road and into the river below.
We stayed out back, till dad came home and found it himself.
When we got back, he asked us where the tank was. lol

 

[Truck Shop]

Main shop has compressor wired through lighting contactor. If the center row of lights is off the compressor is off.

That's a great idea as long as people remember to shut the lights off also. If paying the
electric bill that seems to flip the switch.

 

[cfherrman]

Main shop has compressor wired through lighting contactor. If the center row of lights is off the compressor is off.

What does anyone recommend for clip on chucks for duals? I have the kind with grooves inside to grab the stem, but that's only half effective.

I use the tilt lock which is probably what you are talking about, as long as you push it on all the way before tilting it works really well.

 

[HarleyHappy]

The only problem with that is, it’s usually too early in the morning to hear the compressor spooling up, if you have any fittings leak.
I have the worst luck with air fittings, never mind full flow blow off‘s.
Most are all junk these days.

 

[terex herder]

I live near the shop. The lights get turned off. The shop has lots of windows, so can walk around in daytime to get tools without turning lights on. And easy to tell from distance at night if lights were left on. My shop air system is tight after 10 years. I can tell if some air device was left plugged in when the air compressor starts with the light switch.

I plumbed the air system in black steel. All USA iron fittings, steel merchant couplings that came with the pipe were thrown out.

 

[HarleyHappy]

I plumbed my brothers garage 30+ years ago with PVC pipe and put stations in, with drains and it’s never leaked.

 

[cfherrman]

I have pex water lines for mine. cheap and easy

 

[Welder Dave]

I plumbed my brothers garage 30+ years ago with PVC pipe and put stations in, with drains and it’s never leaked.

I thought PVC was dangerous to use for air lines because if it broke could throw splinters.

 

[Steve Frazier]

I've seated troublesome tires with ether numerous times, just a quick shot around the rim OUTDOORS and touch it off with a lit rag on the end of a stick to give yourself some distance. No more than a 5 second shot. Someone mentioned today's ether isn't as potent, I've wondered about that myself. It doesn't seem to huff like it used to.

If you use the tire soap make sure you're wearing gloves to recover it. A nick or barb on the rim will slice your hand open.

 

[Birken Vogt]

I thought PVC was dangerous to use for air lines because if it broke could throw splinters.

It happened to me once. Dad and I were oxy acetylene cutting something when the PVC in the rafters let go for no particular reason. He said with his dark glasses on he could not see but figured that was it, acetylene tank had let go or something. Nope it was just the 1" PVC. It did throw splinters everywhere, was a big mess.

Years later I plumbed a shop for myself, all black pipe pitched to drain and even though I don't work there any more, it still works.

 

[Truck Shop]

I thought PVC was dangerous to use for air lines because if it broke could throw splinters.

Liquids do not compress losing it's energy when a rupture occurs. Gases are compressible
and under pressure release energy returning to the uncompressed state. Tubing used for
compressed gases has to be rated for that use. OSHA does not allow PVC/CPVC for use in
shop use in compressed air situations. If so it has to encased. There have been many injured
using PVC as Spud guns.
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When I worked for irrigation business in early 90's spud guns were very popular. Kids coming
in all the time wanting to buy parts and pieces to build spud guns. The owner--had a policy
that any time someone buying certain diameters/lengths of pvc along with only a few
distinct pieces were more than likely about 99% of the time building spud guns. He allowed
no sales at that point-using the {Right to refuse service to anyone}. For the fact it was known
that many were injured by exploding PVC. He didn't want anyone having the ability to come
back on him.

 

[Welder Dave]

Some people use copper pipe and soldered fittings for air lines which is much safer. The safest way to test things that hold pressure is to fill them with liquid and do hydrostatic testing. Then they won't violently blow apart if there's a leak. I guess if something was poorly built or way over pressured it could be a little scary if it ruptured during a hydrostatic test but testing with air pressure would be like a bomb going off. Not unlike working on tire's when one blows. I wonder if hydrostatic testing is ever used on tires? I know some aircraft tires require 250 PSI but even big earthmover tires can go off like bombs.

 

[Tunneldigger]

I've done the ether trick. I did it next to a concrete wall and ignite it from afar. Jack it up and you might get lucky and tire flex to normal shape and take air.