8V92TA Running Hot

[John C.]

What kind of antifreeze is in it? For a time there were a lot of issues with silicate drop out plugging passages in diesel engines. As far as intercooler plugging, are we talking about external plugging of the fins or internal plugging of the tubes? It is mentioned about intercoolers under the blowers. I don't recall seeing that but then again, I've never worked on 92s in trucks or gensets.

 

[Truck Shop]

 

[Former Wrench]

From years ago I remember a product called NALCOOL that was to prevent and remove internal engine scaling.

 

[Truck Shop]

I don't recall seeing that but then again,

 

[John C.]

That thing has a guilty look about it.

 

[Truck Shop]

That thing has a guilty look about it.

It came out of a 2 stroke so yes it is guilty of several crimes.

 

[Coaldust]

The crappy part about the situation is even if it went to a shop, the average Zoomer or Millennial Tech isn’t going to know what to do. 1980 just called and they want their 8v-92 back. It’s going to take a crusty, scarred up, grey haired Dude with a bad back to figure it out. They are very unique engines.

I grew up with them, worked for a Detroit Dealer and went to numerous classes on the two-stroke. I still haven’t washed all the black, carbon fouled, 40wt low ash off my skin.

 

[Truck Shop]

It’s going to take a crusty, scarred up, grey haired Dude with a bad back to figure it out. They are very unique engines.

You just described me to a T, except I got rid of my two stroke tools along time ago. And I despise them.

 

[1693TA]

I've kept my specialty tools for these engines though not worked on one in years with anything major. Always found them easy to work on and if one was "in tune" with what they were working with, was a very easy series of engine to repair and maintain.

 

[Coaldust]

I didn’t hang onto any of my Detroit stuff. It’s been a long time since I’ve done any major work on one. Especially a 92. The occasional fire truck or boat is the only place to run across them.

 

[Vetech63]

You just described me to a T, except I got rid of my two stroke tools along time ago. And I despise them.

He said HAIRED dude lol

 

[1693TA]

I still have a 12V-71T, a 6V-92TA, and a 3-53 at my place so the need remains. Once I locate a decent 4-53 I'll repower my portable air compressor from it's current Continental gasoline engine too.

 

[cfherrman]

There is still a ton of these junk engines in the oil field but they don't last very long because I think the mechanics don't know what they are doing with them anymore, they used to last forever.

Still don't have any power we had one rig with a 6v92t 325hp and one with a l10 Cummins 260 HP and the l10 had more useable power, and would start at any temperature. That boat anchor of a engine made me a Cummins guy for heavy duty diesels

 

[Vetech63]

On all 2 stroke Detroit the torque curve is above 80% of the rated rpm setting. I don't know how many times over the years ide go out to one that was being run at half throttle with a complaint of weak power. Ide tell them to throttle it up to full rpm and it solved their power problem. They would scratch their heads not understanding that concept at all.

 

[terex herder]

That's 'cause they drove a B model cat without a rack stop screw one time. After that they thought all engines run that way. I doubt if one guy in a hundred on this forum was alive when the 2 cycle Detroit made its debut.

 

[Coaldust]

I appreciate the pure mechanical technology and love the sound and smell of a Detroit screaming. Don’t get me wrong. There is a service niche opportunity out there. Especially in the marine market for someone willing to work on them. But, there certainly isn’t a shortage of other stuff to repair. Why bother?

I’m going to ultrasound a tank. Meanwhile, the broken Detroit’s can stay broken.

 

[cfherrman]

1 guy in a thousand lol 1931 or 1934 or something lol

 

[Vetech63]

My local Detroit dealer here won't even build the 2 stroke engines anymore. I was told by someone there in authority that they can't find trained people to do anything with them.

 

[DMiller]

Did my time floundering in carbon transferring oil and ignorant governors stick sensitive tiny parts requiring hand lapping, doing things no one could predict, 53s, 71s, 92s, not looking back and essentially gave away all my tooling to JY!!!!

Is a Reason they disappeared from NEW Use.

 

[Truck Shop]

He said HAIRED dude lol

Some guys have a head full of hair-and that's all the fack they got too.

As far as Detroit 2 strokes-It was a cheap engine to build and good in there day. But the two stroke days
are done, some just don't realize it yet. It consumes too much fuel, takes up too much space in V8 form,
Always was a dirty engine, plus is a contributor to noise pollution. And has a dire need to be run on the
governor.
Equipment manufactures liked them years ago because it was a cheap engine to power equipment, trucks
and boats. But the two stroke is nothing more than a filthy pig wallering in it's own outdated/obsolete
pig sty.