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This will be an interesting thread moving forward......

suladas

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I recall looking at pre-op check lists where the person just drew a line straight down the page in the OK column. These were generic check lists so there were some items that plane did not apply things like, ladders, they got the mark even if it was a small skid steer!

I'd rather someone who actually inspected it and sped through the paperwork then someone who sped through the inspection and did the paperwork properly. The paperwork doesn't mean anything if it wasn't inspected and I don't think forcing people to fill it out makes it anymore likely the inspection is actually getting done.
 

muddog1975

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I'd rather someone who actually inspected it and sped through the paperwork then someone who sped through the inspection and did the paperwork properly. The paperwork doesn't mean anything if it wasn't inspected and I don't think forcing people to fill it out makes it anymore likely the inspection is actually getting done.
I agree. But most companies or individuals don't want to pay for a real inspection. It's a real shame, it could save them real money in the future.
 

Truck Shop

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" borrowed my skid steer forks, managed to bend them up too somehow"

how is it even possible to do that??

Finesse-in most cases is all it takes to complete a job. Good operators have finesse, cut
time down with less moves and moved more dirt.

People tear stuff up because of zero finesse abilities. Bull in a China Shop.
 

suladas

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" borrowed my skid steer forks, managed to bend them up too somehow"

how is it even possible to do that??

I have no idea. I have lifted buckets for my 210 with one fork etc and they take that fine and they are over 2000lbs. But they managed to bend up the bottom on one side where it attaches to the machine as well as the guarding at the top is all mangled, they are rated for 4500lbs so they aren't light. Granted two of his skidsteers are quite a bit bigger then mine I think one will lift over 4000lbs, it's just a lack of common sense. They used them for about 2 months and they went from looking brand new as they were only used a few times to 5 years old in that span I don't think there is a section more then a few inches by few inches that doesn't have scrape marks on it. And for the most part they were used to move plywood and rebar....
 

JD955SC

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Yea it is really bad. I compare the shape of my stuff that is 99% run by me only compared to my brothers who has around 15 employees, it's night and day. One complained about running skidsteer without door glass or rear glass, but funny enough added 2 more skidsteers and neither lasted the summer without broken glass either. You'd think when you have to run one in the rain and have a garbage bag on your legs you'd think "maybe I should be more careful and not break the glass next time" but nope. One of them borrowed mine and it took TEN minutes to shatter the front window, yes TEN minutes to break a $400 door. They also borrowed my skid steer forks, managed to bend them up too somehow. I don't understand it and don't have the patience for it. I would either fire virtually all of them, or i'd be in jail, there is no way I could put up with the stupidity. I mean if they were making me an insane amount of money maybe just maybe, but that's not possible with how hard on stuff so many are and slow.

We were talking about it the other day and he mentioned how he is likely planning to downside to around 5-8 guys, said he's not making anymore money with 16 guys it's just more stress, and can keep the better guys and fire the rest, and bonus sell equipment when it's high. If you break it down to per hour invested, we make about the same money and I don't have the stress of any employees. There is perks of employees like if something has to be done on a saturday you can send someone where I have to do it myself, but there's also a lot of stress and if jobs aren't paying or whatnot you can lose a lot of money quick with that kind of money going out.


The equipment we see in the best shape comes from owner operators who operate all of their own stuff or have one or two operators with them who are closer to being partners than normal employees

then the next best stuff is decent to large size fleets with owners and managers that direct operators to take good care of equipment and are willing to spend the money.

Everyone else is a train wreck to some degree or another and the operators are careless slobs who I want to hit over the head with the shovel I have to use to clean out their cabs because they always have a yard of dirt packed in and covered with dip bottles and dip spit everywhere, then other food and drink containers all crammed behind the seat. I swear to god it’s a race among these retards to see who can tear a machine up the quickest and in the dumbest ways. I eagerly await the day autonomous and remote operation ends the need for cabs on machines so at least I won’t spill a nasty cup of dip spit all over me trying to empty out the cab enough to work on the POS.
 

ianjoub

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The equipment we see in the best shape comes from owner operators who operate all of their own stuff or have one or two operators with them who are closer to being partners than normal employees

then the next best stuff is decent to large size fleets with owners and managers that direct operators to take good care of equipment and are willing to spend the money.

Everyone else is a train wreck to some degree or another and the operators are careless slobs who I want to hit over the head with the shovel I have to use to clean out their cabs because they always have a yard of dirt packed in and covered with dip bottles and dip spit everywhere, then other food and drink containers all crammed behind the seat. I swear to god it’s a race among these retards to see who can tear a machine up the quickest and in the dumbest ways. I eagerly await the day autonomous and remote operation ends the need for cabs on machines so at least I won’t spill a nasty cup of dip spit all over me trying to empty out the cab enough to work on the POS.
I dated a lady who was a deputy sheriff back in the day. She told me it was kind of a joke among deputies, they would see who could tear up the transmission in the Crown Vic patrol cars first. A$$HATS
 

Vetech63

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It was pretty quiet yesterday........allowing me to finish up the 310SJ. There was a Deere solution for the problem which was basically drilling and installing another hard nose mounting bolt............that was never done which is why this failed the same way twice. I've been waiting about 10 days now for a Deere tech to go out on a 700K that needs a service advisor hook-up. I called again yesterday about this since I haven't heard anything (I've actually called twice in the last week besides this) and had to leave a message. The good thing is they actually called me back. They are supposed to be looking at that machine this morning.

I could use a quiet week..........but I doubt it will happen LOL
 

Vetech63

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Why don’t you have service advisor? Seems like you get plenty of Deere work
I never thought it would be worth the investment. I only need a hook up for service advisor a handful of times a year if that. I haven't checked pricing in a while but when I did, I determined it was much cheaper to have the dealer do that part. I, at this point, am nearing the end of my career in this part of the business so to invest in it now wouldn't be prudent. Also, I downgraded the size of my newest service truck and don't have enough room for what I already have. I did this with the intent of declining some types of work moving forward due to my age and physical condition.

I did get the truck washed today........first time in a while.
Clean truck.jpg
 
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