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This will be an interesting thread moving forward......
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The lube truck n the left of this pic hasn't moved in a year. I don't know how equipment is getting fueled and they are not getting anything else.
Geez..........I'm going to eat dinner , then I will tell you what a current job super told me today.
Geez..........I'm going to eat dinner , then I will tell you what a current job super told me today.
cuttin edge
Senior Member
We've been looking for a licensed T&T man since Christmas. Hired one this week. He was waiting for his license to arrive in the mail. 20 something years old. Probably move on after a while. Pickins are slim. If it was not for great dealer service, we'd be screwed. Saw the cat man this week working on a 20 year old D6. Be a big bill, but the pool is thin.
This one is comical
This is the dozer I watched HNC put the tracks on backwards a while back. Someone has declared their love of duck..........a sign of the times we now live in.
Notice the missing pad at the sprocket.
I guess they lost the master pad and instead of replacing it and the bolts..........they just welded the link and left the pad off. These were new rails with less than 500 hours on them
This is the dozer I watched HNC put the tracks on backwards a while back. Someone has declared their love of duck..........a sign of the times we now live in.
Notice the missing pad at the sprocket.
I guess they lost the master pad and instead of replacing it and the bolts..........they just welded the link and left the pad off. These were new rails with less than 500 hours on them
Tags
Senior Member
This is better than any TV show….keep em’ coming!!
A long time super I have known for over 20 years gave me a bit of info today. He said in the last 2 weeks there has been massive defections. The primary estimator and another estimator under him, the concrete foreman, the general super and another job super that had been there for 7 years, HNC, and TNH. He told me than HNC and TNH asked for raises and were told no way. They decided to leave. He wasn't sure if the others were for the same reason or not but did say that the dirt side of the company wasn't making a profit and losing money. The asphalt side is busy and making money hand over fist and is apparently carrying the dirt side for awhile now.
This looks more like a major housecleaning to me. Maybe from the father and founder? I will have to be real careful as to what I am willing to risk with this dirt side outfit.
This looks more like a major housecleaning to me. Maybe from the father and founder? I will have to be real careful as to what I am willing to risk with this dirt side outfit.
BigWrench55
Senior Member
That place is in desperate need of a mechanic. Even a half assed decent mechanic would do. Because in the land of the blind. The man with one eye is king.
DMiller
Senior Member
At the utterings of Housecleaning I would be BACKING AWAY Rapidly. Let the bones fall where they may but leave that snake pit alone for the time being.
Truck Shop
Senior Member
Question-How can they or why bother to stay in business. But if they can operate with that much derelict
equipment fence rowed? maybe some of it should go down the road. 2 cents.
equipment fence rowed? maybe some of it should go down the road. 2 cents.
Oh I completely agree trust me. I’d sell a lot of it if they hadn’t borrowed 20M against all of it……or so I’ve heard
BigWrench55
Senior Member
Sounds like Someone is funding things other than the business. That's a giant red flag.
crane operator
Senior Member
20 million borrowed from the bank- to buy out the old man by the kids I bet. And it sounds like only one of the three kids knows what's going on. That's going to be tough to make it.
Really it looks like pretty new equipment to me, that they've just been running into the ground. The dozers/ fuel truck and everything else looks pretty new. As long as they keep paying you, I don't see any reason to stop working for them. It will take them a while to run out of the founder's money.
Give them about 3 years and the kids will see how much work it took for the founder to get there, and I bet they will be looking for someone/ competitor to write them a check for the whole thing.
Its just so difficult when the employees know that the boss/ bosses don't have any idea what they are doing, and dad handed it to them. Its a pain for the superintendents and for everyone else down the chain, because there's no one to ask "how do you want to do this?" because the new bosses don't know what they are doing.
Really it looks like pretty new equipment to me, that they've just been running into the ground. The dozers/ fuel truck and everything else looks pretty new. As long as they keep paying you, I don't see any reason to stop working for them. It will take them a while to run out of the founder's money.
Give them about 3 years and the kids will see how much work it took for the founder to get there, and I bet they will be looking for someone/ competitor to write them a check for the whole thing.
Its just so difficult when the employees know that the boss/ bosses don't have any idea what they are doing, and dad handed it to them. Its a pain for the superintendents and for everyone else down the chain, because there's no one to ask "how do you want to do this?" because the new bosses don't know what they are doing.
Like was mentioned up thread no leadership bad leadership is one thing but a vacuum of leadership is the worst cancer to an organization there is
muddog1975
Well-Known Member
I totally agree!!!
Hey I know this dance!
Companies all around here are having these same issues, some keep trying to hire cheap and get what they pay for and others sold off the whole fleet and only lease now, let the repairs be the dealers problems.
As far as pay goes it's basically $35/hr with crap benefits for field mechanics unless you're the golden child every company seems to have, then you might hit $40/hr.
Personally I'd stick with being a contractor, I had one company want to hire me for managing their fleet and it was clear they had no desire to fix the issues as much as find someone to blame when their ideas didn't work out as well as their ego said it would. As a contractor though you're their hero; coming in to scoop up the broken pieces and gone before the next bright idea college boy learned in some construction magazine. And that's what I'm working towards, as soon as a service truck comes along that insanely over valued.
Companies all around here are having these same issues, some keep trying to hire cheap and get what they pay for and others sold off the whole fleet and only lease now, let the repairs be the dealers problems.
As far as pay goes it's basically $35/hr with crap benefits for field mechanics unless you're the golden child every company seems to have, then you might hit $40/hr.
Personally I'd stick with being a contractor, I had one company want to hire me for managing their fleet and it was clear they had no desire to fix the issues as much as find someone to blame when their ideas didn't work out as well as their ego said it would. As a contractor though you're their hero; coming in to scoop up the broken pieces and gone before the next bright idea college boy learned in some construction magazine. And that's what I'm working towards, as soon as a service truck comes along that insanely over valued.
Welder Dave
Senior Member
I agree with staying as a contractor. I think there would be nothing but headaches if you worked there full time. As a contractor you can decide if you want to work on something or not. The fact the equipment looks fairly new and is sitting idle because it needs repairs, etc. indicates the operators don't care much and the equipment hasn't had very good or any preventive maintainence done.
A few years ago a large contractor that was around for years went into receivership owing about 58 million. 3 employee's bought the company from the retiring owner. They were very busy at first and almost bragging that they could buy new equipment and were doing fantastic. They were even on the news. Fast forward, about 3 years, and they were on the news again but not favorably. Long time Edmonton contractor folds after 50 some years.
Construction company Sprague Rosser in receivership | CTV News
Staff at Sprague Rosser Demanding Pay - Video | MNP LTD (mnpdebt.ca)
A few years ago a large contractor that was around for years went into receivership owing about 58 million. 3 employee's bought the company from the retiring owner. They were very busy at first and almost bragging that they could buy new equipment and were doing fantastic. They were even on the news. Fast forward, about 3 years, and they were on the news again but not favorably. Long time Edmonton contractor folds after 50 some years.
Construction company Sprague Rosser in receivership | CTV News
Staff at Sprague Rosser Demanding Pay - Video | MNP LTD (mnpdebt.ca)
While that is quite a bit of money and iron sitting around, if they have 150 pieces, even 10% of it sitting in the yard that's not a lot, and if the other stuff is working steady it will pay for it easy. It doesn't take away from it being dumb to manage it like that, but any company who needs 100% of their stuff out working is going to fail.