Vigilant
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The trucks in Post #98 look to be A Models, predecessors of the L Models. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Vintage Macks
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bushman1
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The tie up was actually a protest by truckers at clam beach/little river when weight limits were started to be enforced. Trucker from mckinleyville dad was in it.
Redwood Climber
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Thanks for the clarification Mr. Bushman1, there was not much info with the pic, I shouldn't guess. Do you have any pictures of your Dad in his day? Also, do you remember or know the date?
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hayeslogtruck
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these 2 trucks are White's not Mack's also the Mack LM's differance was the grill shell LMSW-L logger had a cast rad tank were as LM-M mining had a sheet metal rad surround this is easiest way to tell differance .
Redwood Climber
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Well now don't I feel like a dipstick....Thank you Mr. Hayeslogtruck, if it weren't for knowledgeable people like you I'd have things all goofed up. I wish I could move this post, but it's too late. I guess I'm going to need to learn more about old trucks and learn what a Mack Bulldog looks like hehe....I spent some time driving a few Macks, but they were 70's vintage. Also I was looking at the other end of the Bulldog. Thank you for your help Sir.
Redwood, no need to be embarrassed!! I sure appreciate your pics here, and a day gone by without learning something is a day wasted. I'm curious how that Mack in post 96 got laid over, it looks like a pretty straight run of road.
Jumbo
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I'm curious how that Mack in post 96 got laid over, it looks like a pretty straight run of road.[/QUOTE]
Speaking from bad experience...... It kind of looks like the trailer caught the ditch and in trying to pop it out, driver flopped it over. I had an interesting conversation with a truck boss (uncle) regarding something ahem; QUITE similar. Pure carelessness on my part, I was young, knew everything and did not need to listen to others etc.
Truck was a '49 Mack, 12 foot bunks and 6 foot stakes. They brought a shovel down, kicked the load loose, flopped the truck upright, checked the coolant, and oil reloaded most of it and sent me down the road to the dump with it. They did not fix the broken windows (missing) for a month or so. They did fix the mirror. Having winter slop in through the open windshield sure helped keep me alert though. That was one tough Mack, later I drove a Mack DM800 which could not hold a candle to that old pig.
Speaking from bad experience...... It kind of looks like the trailer caught the ditch and in trying to pop it out, driver flopped it over. I had an interesting conversation with a truck boss (uncle) regarding something ahem; QUITE similar. Pure carelessness on my part, I was young, knew everything and did not need to listen to others etc.
Truck was a '49 Mack, 12 foot bunks and 6 foot stakes. They brought a shovel down, kicked the load loose, flopped the truck upright, checked the coolant, and oil reloaded most of it and sent me down the road to the dump with it. They did not fix the broken windows (missing) for a month or so. They did fix the mirror. Having winter slop in through the open windshield sure helped keep me alert though. That was one tough Mack, later I drove a Mack DM800 which could not hold a candle to that old pig.
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Redwood Climber
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Wrappers & Cheeseblocks
I'm not sure that I understand your post Sir.......but I will say that on ANY load of old growth Redwood, especially when the sap is running in the spring, you want to have wrappers........no, you HAVE to have wrappers. At least two per peaker. When the sap is running, the bark slips off very easily, that is the main reason you see so many peeled logs. To load Redwood with the bark intact when the sap is running is inviting disaster. While the wrappers may hold the bark, the log can slip right out of the bark.
While helping to fall timber, I have witnessed numerous times when the tree hit the ground it would slide out of the bark.....like 80 to 100' of log slick as a whistle. Even with cork boots on, walking on a freshly peeled Redwood is tricky business.
So every load that left the truck slip whether it was a stake or cheeseblock truck, always had at least one wrapper per peaker. He may pull out of the slip to allow another truck in, then tie the rest down. My apologies if I misunderstood your post.
Here is an example of what can happen if a load slips ahead. I don't know the story of this Mack, but it looks as if that may have been what happened.
Photo from Boyle collection, Dated pre-1956.
I'm not sure that I understand your post Sir.......but I will say that on ANY load of old growth Redwood, especially when the sap is running in the spring, you want to have wrappers........no, you HAVE to have wrappers. At least two per peaker. When the sap is running, the bark slips off very easily, that is the main reason you see so many peeled logs. To load Redwood with the bark intact when the sap is running is inviting disaster. While the wrappers may hold the bark, the log can slip right out of the bark.
While helping to fall timber, I have witnessed numerous times when the tree hit the ground it would slide out of the bark.....like 80 to 100' of log slick as a whistle. Even with cork boots on, walking on a freshly peeled Redwood is tricky business.
So every load that left the truck slip whether it was a stake or cheeseblock truck, always had at least one wrapper per peaker. He may pull out of the slip to allow another truck in, then tie the rest down. My apologies if I misunderstood your post.
Here is an example of what can happen if a load slips ahead. I don't know the story of this Mack, but it looks as if that may have been what happened.
Photo from Boyle collection, Dated pre-1956.
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Redwood Climber
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Enging ID in That Mack....
That's Engine....Can any of you truck genius' ID that engine? Is that the same model as the rest of the Macks? Thanks.
That's Engine....Can any of you truck genius' ID that engine? Is that the same model as the rest of the Macks? Thanks.
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Jumbo
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Redwood Climber
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Is There a Way to Move Posts?
Thank you Sir, not really embarassed, just making light of a goof up. God knows I do enough of those....so is there a way to move posts? I don't see a thread for White, International, Dodge, GMC, Ford, Marmon, etc. log trucks. I know there are pics out there.
As to post 96, the pic gave no details, but as Mr. Jumbo says, he may have caught the ditch. Also, it is common for these logs to shift if they are not settled down into a "saddle". If a large log were to shift just a foot or two, it can shift the center of gravity a bunch. Off highway loads are typically tall loads, so the CG is pretty high.
Also, that may be a bit more of a hill than it looks.
Thank you Sir, not really embarassed, just making light of a goof up. God knows I do enough of those....so is there a way to move posts? I don't see a thread for White, International, Dodge, GMC, Ford, Marmon, etc. log trucks. I know there are pics out there.
As to post 96, the pic gave no details, but as Mr. Jumbo says, he may have caught the ditch. Also, it is common for these logs to shift if they are not settled down into a "saddle". If a large log were to shift just a foot or two, it can shift the center of gravity a bunch. Off highway loads are typically tall loads, so the CG is pretty high.
Also, that may be a bit more of a hill than it looks.
jackd
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That is a chain drive Hayes that is being restored up in Port Alberni.
jackd
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Hate to disappoint you but I didn't. When you are wearing a motorbike riding suit on a hot summer day, you tend to make haste when off the bike. I did hear the comment from someone that they couldn't see the 'mechanism' but that might mean that only the chains were missing. What you are seeing here is all that I have. I only posted it in one big bunch because I'm heading off to my job tomorrow (Vancouver) and I wanted to get my pics out there before I left. Enjoy.