deere 710j vs. cat 450e,wich one do you prefer?

[equipment fan]

Hi guys,wich one do you prefer?The Deere 710j or the Cat 450e?Please vote and said your opinion.Wich one of the two major manufacturer produce the best big backhoe loader?

 

[tuney443]

The Deere will run circles around the Cat.The J rigs are even more impressive than the G's

 

[jazak]

Cat doesn't make a 450E.........

They make a 416E, 420E, 430E & 446D but no 450E........

http://cat.com/cda/layout?m=37840&x=7

 

[mtb345]

i am not a big jd fan when it comes to backhoes. its top heavy like the old 780 case and when your loading trucks you have to watch the counter weight inthe front because it hits the rim of the wheel.backhoe part i give a thumbs up .the backhoe i like for digging and loading 420 and :my2c 430

 

[Cat420]

Cat doesn't make a 450E.........

They make a 416E, 420E, 430E & 446D but no 450E........

http://cat.com/cda/layout?m=37840&x=7

The 450E is a new model, but I don't know if it's in production yet.

 

[mflah87]

450E must be Cat trying to compete with the John Deere 710

 

[Cat420]

I thought that's what the 446 was for and the 450E is just going to replace the 446? I haven't really compared them (446,710) to see if they are close.

 

[Tigerotor77W]

The 450E is the replacement of thr 446D and is aimed squarely at the 710's market share.

 

[345cl]

ill leave our cat in the closet and bring out the 710 anytime that is one monster of a backhoe,,

 

[mflah87]

A 710 is a excavator on wheels. I'm not a john deere guy, but I have to give them credit when it comes to backhoes.

 

[tuney443]

i am not a big jd fan when it comes to backhoes. its top heavy like the old 780 case and when your loading trucks you have to watch the counter weight inthe front because it hits the rim of the wheel.backhoe part i give a thumbs up .the backhoe i like for digging and loading 420 and :my2c 430

The 710 is not top heavy at all and the Case 780 is barely in the same ballpark with it.It's a nicely balanced machine as are all JD hoes from the B series on up.The counterweight you mention that extends is for a second and third weight that does protrude past the grille.If you're loading trucks often, like I do, simply remove them.The 500 lbs. I lost is barely noticeable.

 

[2004F550]

We have a 710D and it is a hell of a loader and a backhoe. We also have various 410's. I really like JD backhoes, good visibility, power, balance. I have run Case and Cat too, the Cat was a 420 IT I didn't get to run the hoe, but the loader didn't do anything for me. The Case was a little better, but I'll still take a Deere for backhoes and 100hp dozers and less.

 

[farm_boy]

710J all the way baby:woohoo

6 cylinders
122 HP
28K lbs

What more do you want? The 450E can't touch this!!

 

[Tigerotor77W]

What more do you want? The 450E can't touch this!!

Out of curiosity, have you seen any specs comparing the performance of these two yet?

And I wonder if the boys in Clayton, NC are watching this thread... the E-series was among the most ambitious new product programs launched (certainly in relation to the size of the machine). It's a shame to see quality go to the bottom and then see such low opinion of the 450E. It's actually kind of disheartening.

 

[Countryboy]

Is the 450E out yet Tiger?

 

[farm_boy]

Out of curiosity, have you seen any specs comparing the performance of these two yet?

Only what I saw at WOC this year Tiger. If the 710 was such a target for the 450E I was very surprised to see that Cat continued to put a 4 cylinder engine in it. :beatsme

The new E-series cabs are nice though. It is just too bad that they haven't been able to figure out the whole EH thing yet cause the TMC J's are sweeeet!:thumbsup

 

[biggixxerjim]

I vote for a Dynahoe

 

[mflah87]

I vote for a Dynahoe

Don't laugh a dynahoe 140 and a mack b61 6 wheeler put me in business.

 

[jazak]

OK my "?"; Why would you want such a large backhoe?? Isn't it easier just to buy a larger excavator?? And more productive??

 

[surfer-joe]

A Dynahoe?!!!!!!!

I'd hoped to bury my memories of Dynahoe's so deeply that I would never think of them again...........