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Born2clearcut

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AH here's another one on the move getting snubbed down a hill . Can see a old shack in the bottom of the draw on left
 

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Thats a great collection of pics.that you and your Grandfather have thanks for sharing them with us.
Hi everyone
My grandpa worked for BCFP most his loggin career ,my dad worked for them at one time also in Van bay , I worked for them starting around 83 in Narrows Inlet . i'll find some pictures my grandpa gave me .Here's one hanging in my kitchen of a carving made and given to him by BCFP when he retired
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Can't get enough of those Sparmatic pics. Keep adding them. I posted a bunch of shots on the M & B thread of two I used to work on back in the late '70s. Strange as it may seem bu they're still one of my favourite machines...
 

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Does anybody know purpose of U-channel at top of headache rack and why they got that angle. I have only seen those on BCFP trucks - see posted pics af sander(Summer 2005) and tanker(Summer 2010) truck. Look at born2clearcut pics as well
 

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if it's the 2 bigger piece's on the side of watertank, it's for the front bunk to sit on for the preload trailers, Spoart lake div. had 2 of these the reach's didn't slide so the bunk sat way high on top stop them from swaying from side to side H131 and H132 i think check out Jim Falconer's pic from Norm West on Hank's site these trailers needed to be lifted onto truck.
 

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if it's the 2 bigger piece's on the side of watertank, it's for the front bunk to sit on for the preload trailers, Spoart lake div. had 2 of these the reach's didn't slide so the bunk sat way high on top stop them from swaying from side to side H131 and H132 i think check out Jim Falconer's pic from Norm West on Hank's site these trailers needed to be lifted onto truck.

Could one of those have been sent to Sandspit, too?
 

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if it's the 2 bigger piece's on the side of watertank, it's for the front bunk to sit on for the preload trailers, Spoart lake div. had 2 of these the reach's didn't slide so the bunk sat way high on top stop them from swaying from side to side H131 and H132 i think check out Jim Falconer's pic from Norm West on Hank's site these trailers needed to be lifted onto truck.

That doesn't figure, the BCFP trucks had the folding reach trailers. The bunk didn't go up there, I was just looking at a picture of one. They seem to have come with the extra iron on top right from the factory.
 

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In April 1980 BCFP started a log recovery program . In Ucluelet harbour the log losses through deadheads and sinkers were over 15 % of the volume produced At intervals attemps were made to recover the deadheads and sinkers and sell them at a distress prices to local mills . Attemps to pile them up and dry them out also failed . pic #1 Ucluelet harbour jin pole log dump with some of logs recovered that were riddled with teredoes and the logs were worthless within a few months . Pictures of the American on the barge is log recovery in Cowichan lake . Due to the shortage of log supply for its major sawmill and veneer plant complex in Youbou . BCFP experimented with recovering the sinkers in the lake ,some have been there for over 30 years . The salvage equipment consists of a American grapple mounted on a steel scow. There are 2 detachable scows on which the sunken logs are intially placed . The cost of this setup was $ 1,000,000 . It was estimated that production was about 15,000 cunits per year ( cunits were a log volume measurement at the time ) and there was more then 10 years of work for BCFP alone .
 

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That doesn't figure, the BCFP trucks had the folding reach trailers. The bunk didn't go up there, I was just looking at a picture of one. They seem to have come with the extra iron on top right from the factory.

They used a regular preload trailer, The truck had a fifth wheel but it would only go up a couple of feet, so the trailer had a lifting strap on it and you unloaded it with the loader, And boy that rig was heavy the smaller loaders had a tougth time of it on hills. When I worked in Moses Inlet back in the 80"s for Benwest Logging there was a contract truck there with that set up , and in Zeballos they had two of them there in the 70's ,All of them were P16's.Gold River had several of them too.
 

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They used a regular preload trailer, The truck had a fifth wheel but it would only go up a couple of feet, so the trailer had a lifting strap on it and you unloaded it with the loader, And boy that rig was heavy the smaller loaders had a tougth time of it on hills. When I worked in Moses Inlet back in the 80"s for Benwest Logging there was a contract truck there with that set up , and in Zeballos they had two of them there in the 70's ,All of them were P16's.Gold River had several of them too.

This one has the extra iron on the water tank, yet it is clear that the bunk doesn't sit up there.
 

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And here is a picture, which I had to steal, showing a BCFP HDX with the folding reach pre-load trailer. As you can see, the extra iron on the water tank couldn't be to stabilize the trailer, as the trailer doesn't go near it. The iron was obviously added at the factory, too, because this is from a Hayes brochure.
 

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These were P16's I drove and loaded, the Hayes are differrent they must have used them for another reason' but they sure look like the ones used on the P16's. They could put a front bunk on and use a coventional trailer if they wished.The way some loader operators loaded the more you had over the cab the better off you were.
 

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Trakloader top pic is H 57 from Copper Canyon V12 GM with sticks Was surplused and went through a few hands until finally Frank DeIaco bought it from Nanaimo (DeIaco Trailers) and painted it all yellow even inside cab and added a blue stripe to the outside and had it for sale - dont know where she ended up The beautiful BCFP Preload underneath was 6-234 from Caycuse She was sold to Hayes Forest after the big Timber-Waste garage sale and they cut her up at Mesachie Lake (I saved the cab what was left of it)
 

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The BCFP Preload story was you were all right in a way In 1956 BCFP started to fool around with Pre-loads unit 211-212 came as conventionals but were converted to Preloads and they used the early system where in fact the front bunk DID sit above the top of the water tank Units 213 and 214 were originally destined for their Harris Creek Camp when new in 1956 but were both eventually converted and sent to Caycuse? It was August of 1960 that units 213 and #214 was converted over to a preloads As was 215 and 216 Unit 217 went to Pitt Lake along with 218 and they had 4 preload trailers delivered with them Unit 219 220 221 went to Caycuse with the new big power Cummins V8s unit 222 and 223 went to Harris Creek Camp Unit 224 went to Renfrew Division as a preload I know this is overpowering all this info at once I will try and send you a pic of what these early preloads looked like Trakloader OK Then you can post it
 

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The BCFP Preload story was you were all right in a way In 1956 BCFP started to fool around with Pre-loads unit 211-212 came as conventionals but were converted to Preloads and they used the early system where in fact the front bunk DID sit above the top of the water tank Units 213 and 214 were originally destined for their Harris Creek Camp when new in 1956 but were both eventually converted and sent to Caycuse? It was August of 1960 that units 213 and #214 was converted over to a preloads As was 215 and 216 Unit 217 went to Pitt Lake along with 218 and they had 4 preload trailers delivered with them Unit 219 220 221 went to Caycuse with the new big power Cummins V8s unit 222 and 223 went to Harris Creek Camp Unit 224 went to Renfrew Division as a preload I know this is overpowering all this info at once I will try and send you a pic of what these early preloads looked like Trakloader OK Then you can post it

HDX. you are THE MAN! Thanks for clearing that up, I was hoping you'd get in on this discussion. When did the hydraulic 5th. wheel as we know it today come out?
 

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Pics of ex BCFP #40-130 when she still was in operational for ABL. I think she has been scrapped. I did not see her in 2010. She had conventional configuration - not a preloader
 

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Pics of ex BCFP #40-130 when she still was in operational for ABL. I think she has been scrapped. I did not see her in 2010. She had conventional configuration - not a preloader

Wow, poor old girl looked pretty sad even then. Just pounded to death, by the looks of it. I'll bet she didn't look like that when BCFP ran her. I hate that retarded way they haul the empty trailers now, too. E&A hauls them that way, and half the time the reach is pointing skyward. Quite a few have fallen off on hills. It doesn't feel good following a truck with the trailer bouncing up and down. :mad:
 
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