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Deas Plant
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'Travelling "Expletive".
Hi, Stock.
Ye olde Aveling Barford 6x6x6 grader, sometimes called 'Travelling "Expletive", the "expletive" meaning 'of dubious parentage'.
Ackshully, they weren't a real bad machine. That 6-wheel drive was pretty hard to stop and the 6-wheel steering made them fairly manoeverable as well.
While the controls were not the most user-friendly on the market, they were also not the worst. The machines themselves were pretty robust and could handle a good load on the blade. AND, they were all hydraulic at a time when Cat was sticking very firmly to its dog-clutch gear controls.
All the machines that I saw had either Leyland or GM diesels and the two that I operated had plenty of grunt. Those two also had torque converters in the drive train before a foot-operated clutch and manual transmission. One of these was a 20-ton machine with a GM 6V71 at 250 hp. This particular jigger had thumb-operated micro switches on the blade lift control levers to operate the steering without having to take a hand off the lift control levers - very handy around pegs and other obstacles.
If you look closely, you can see the drive shafts for the front axle laying on top of the main frame and you can also see one drive shaft bearing mount under the main frame. The transfer gear drop box for the front wheel drive can be seen under the cab surrounded by an angle iron protective frame.
This machine also has traction weights front and rear, something that I haven't seen a lot of. I don't know if they were fitted standard and they had been removed from most of the machines that I saw or if they were an optional extra.
Austin-Western and Clark were two other manufacturers who made 6x6x6 graders that looked a whole lot like these A-B machines. A-B also made 4x4x4 graders which were quite popular in their day.
BTW, I can't remember ever seeing one of these jiggers with a steering wheel. All the ones that I saw had a T-handle that operated hydraulic rams to steer the front wheels and what would be the lean wheel control in a Cat grader was the rear wheel steering control. The rear tandems on the 6x6x6's steered by turning on a turntable arrangement.
Thanks for sharing.
Hi, Stock.
Ye olde Aveling Barford 6x6x6 grader, sometimes called 'Travelling "Expletive", the "expletive" meaning 'of dubious parentage'.
Ackshully, they weren't a real bad machine. That 6-wheel drive was pretty hard to stop and the 6-wheel steering made them fairly manoeverable as well.
While the controls were not the most user-friendly on the market, they were also not the worst. The machines themselves were pretty robust and could handle a good load on the blade. AND, they were all hydraulic at a time when Cat was sticking very firmly to its dog-clutch gear controls.
All the machines that I saw had either Leyland or GM diesels and the two that I operated had plenty of grunt. Those two also had torque converters in the drive train before a foot-operated clutch and manual transmission. One of these was a 20-ton machine with a GM 6V71 at 250 hp. This particular jigger had thumb-operated micro switches on the blade lift control levers to operate the steering without having to take a hand off the lift control levers - very handy around pegs and other obstacles.
If you look closely, you can see the drive shafts for the front axle laying on top of the main frame and you can also see one drive shaft bearing mount under the main frame. The transfer gear drop box for the front wheel drive can be seen under the cab surrounded by an angle iron protective frame.
This machine also has traction weights front and rear, something that I haven't seen a lot of. I don't know if they were fitted standard and they had been removed from most of the machines that I saw or if they were an optional extra.
Austin-Western and Clark were two other manufacturers who made 6x6x6 graders that looked a whole lot like these A-B machines. A-B also made 4x4x4 graders which were quite popular in their day.
BTW, I can't remember ever seeing one of these jiggers with a steering wheel. All the ones that I saw had a T-handle that operated hydraulic rams to steer the front wheels and what would be the lean wheel control in a Cat grader was the rear wheel steering control. The rear tandems on the 6x6x6's steered by turning on a turntable arrangement.
Thanks for sharing.
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Deas,
Thanks for the great description of this machine. You are truly a living library.
I'm always on the lookout for an unusual grader to get pictures of just so I can hear the details of it's history on this website. I really appreciate everyone's contributions.
Deas,
Thanks for the great description of this machine. You are truly a living library.
I'm always on the lookout for an unusual grader to get pictures of just so I can hear the details of it's history on this website. I really appreciate everyone's contributions.
stock
Senior Member
Dea right on da money
There are still some of these working here so as soon as pic's come available I'll post them
ps its for sale ,has a recon engine in it but the clutch is worked out and the front drive bearing is snookered
stock
There are still some of these working here so as soon as pic's come available I'll post them
ps its for sale ,has a recon engine in it but the clutch is worked out and the front drive bearing is snookered
stock
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MG SUPER 500
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Hi there...
I see that this is a simular grader like that I have. I just bought an Aveling Barford Super MG 500. It's an 6x6x6 witj an frontblade and mouldblade. It's an 1970modell, and it's condition is pretty good. It's powered by an Leyland AU600/46 engine, it's 597cu.ins / 9784cc. it's a staight 6sylinder, and it's about 160horse in it. And the transmission is manually.
I hope you can understand what I'm writing, my english is kinda rusty..
I see that this is a simular grader like that I have. I just bought an Aveling Barford Super MG 500. It's an 6x6x6 witj an frontblade and mouldblade. It's an 1970modell, and it's condition is pretty good. It's powered by an Leyland AU600/46 engine, it's 597cu.ins / 9784cc. it's a staight 6sylinder, and it's about 160horse in it. And the transmission is manually.
I hope you can understand what I'm writing, my english is kinda rusty..
MG SUPER 500
Member
Thats good to hear Well, yesterday me and my pal just bought another AB Grader... thats an SG350 6x6x6.. But it's condition is very bad... We mainly bought it for the engine, and the hydraulics and the mouldboard. But the cabin is almost gone by rust. It powered by an Scania 80 super Turbo engine, and that one is puting out about 250horse.
I have tried to put out som pics in here, but it seems that I'm not allowed?? Does anybody now why I cant??
Take a look at this thread MG: http://heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/announcement.php?f=50
MG SUPER 500
Member
OK. So if I understand correctly will I be allowed to post pics and start a thread in a while after I have posted more than 3 reply's on others thread I just have to wait a bit then
thanks Steve
I just have to wait a bit then thanks Steve
MG SUPER 500
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MG SUPER 500
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MG SUPER 500
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I hope you enjoy the pics
Welcome to the Forum Mg super 500.:drinkup:drinkup
I guess you got a MG in your garrage too?(Pics?)
There is a lot of old grader guys here on the forum, some has been operating graders from when your AB was designed...
Don't be afraid to post pics or ask questions, we will do our best to give you help and advice!
Hope you enjoy your stay here with us!
I made a thread some time ago with some pics of a newer AB whom i found in Drammen. Might bee some info/details for you there....
Fårrå nålles, as we say.(take care)
I guess you got a MG in your garrage too?(Pics?
)There is a lot of old grader guys here on the forum, some has been operating graders from when your AB was designed...
Don't be afraid to post pics or ask questions, we will do our best to give you help and advice!
Hope you enjoy your stay here with us!
I made a thread some time ago with some pics of a newer AB whom i found in Drammen. Might bee some info/details for you there....
Fårrå nålles, as we say.(take care)
Deas Plant
Senior Member
Welcome and thanks for sharing.
Hi, MG Super 500.
Welcome to the forum. Good photos. Thanks for sharing. Your English doesn't appear to be as rusty as that SG350. It's a pity that the scarifier is missing from the SG500. Otherwise. it appears from the photo to be almost complete and fairly well cared for, apart from the bent step and the corner missing from the dozer cutting edge. I do not know if the scarifier from the SG350 will fit on the SG500.
Happy restoring and thanks again.
Hi, MG Super 500.
Welcome to the forum. Good photos. Thanks for sharing. Your English doesn't appear to be as rusty as that SG350. It's a pity that the scarifier is missing from the SG500. Otherwise. it appears from the photo to be almost complete and fairly well cared for, apart from the bent step and the corner missing from the dozer cutting edge. I do not know if the scarifier from the SG350 will fit on the SG500.
Happy restoring and thanks again.
MG SUPER 500
Member
Thanks guys Yes, the SG350 is very rusty... but it all funktions well... but its mainly bought for spearparts...
And the SG500 was kind'a restored back in the late 90's, it was sandblestered (I dont know if it's called that) and repainted yellow. The shape is as I said quite good, but the electric system is VERY bad... And on these macines the electricsystem is backwords... it's having positive grounding, and te negative wiering. But we got to put in a completly new wiering system, and whith the Scania engine the dynamo will put the power the "right" way
The SG500 came to this erea back in 1970, it was delivered in the christmas 1969. We got all the books and manuals who came with this, and its kinda good reading for an "fan" of graders I will post more pics as the process is running allong
Dwan Hall
Senior Member
Are the Aveling Barford graders the overseas model names for Austin Western? the other way around? with different power plants.
Sure looks like I have seen one like that before.
Sure looks like I have seen one like that before.
MG SUPER 500
Member
I've been searcing a little on the internet on these graders... And to me it looks pretty the same... with a little differences and so...
And I've heard that you could get these graders with different engines.. Leyland, Detroit and Scania.. but I think I spotted one with an Perkins engine too on the net..
I'n my SG500 its a Leyland engine, and it was a similar engine in the SG350 before they had put in a Scania engine there... It fitted right on.. same braketts and bolts 
Super Roel
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I've been searcing a little on the internet on these graders... And to me it looks pretty the same... with a little differences and so...
And I've heard that you could get these graders with different engines.. Leyland, Detroit and Scania.. but I think I spotted one with an Perkins engine too on the net..
I think that Aveling-Barford and Aveling Austin motograders were licensed from Austin-Western , buth i have also an picture from an German Henschel motorgrader and that look the same as the AB and there is also an Russian motorgrader thats look also the same
Super Roel
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MG SUPER 500
Member
I see that the frame is allmost the same...