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Old 11-20-2009, 06:33 PM   #1
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like i said ....just what i heard , cause its just because they (cat) doesnt sell many small track loaders its more the 963/973 size , most people buy skids i guess....and just what i was told buy a salesman
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Old 11-21-2009, 11:09 AM   #2
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I for one would love to see CAT bring back the 943 in any form. I had one as my first shovel and it was the best machine I have ever had. I would love one day to run my own 943 but unfortunately they are not used as much in the UK as they are in the US so getting business would be hard but who knows I may still do it.
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Old 11-22-2009, 02:04 PM   #3
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I doubt that in pure dirt-hogging applications that even a 299C or TL250 will outwork a 939C -- the buckets are bigger on the full-size track loaders. That being said, the numbers of 90 HP crawlers sold is pretty low. They are expensive to maintain relative to a dozer, and in Europe and North America, where the lot sizes continue to shrink, I don't think that the market would support more than one-hundred a year... owning the market (973) is one thing, but splitting it between two manufacturers (605D, 943D) would probably not be on Cat's list of priorities.

But that's just my take. Maybe the crazy engineers are working on a 943D as I type this.
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Old 12-08-2009, 02:38 PM   #4
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I doubt that in pure dirt-hogging applications that even a 299C or TL250 will outwork a 939C -- the buckets are bigger on the full-size track loaders. That being said, the numbers of 90 HP crawlers sold is pretty low. They are expensive to maintain relative to a dozer, and in Europe and North America, where the lot sizes continue to shrink, I don't think that the market would support more than one-hundred a year... owning the market (973) is one thing, but splitting it between two manufacturers (605D, 943D) would probably not be on Cat's list of priorities.

But that's just my take. Maybe the crazy engineers are working on a 943D as I type this.
I saw at the IQ show that Liebherr is selliing the 614 with a quick coupler that takes attachments. I am not sure what it fits but it had a rockland root rake and a 4 in 1 bucket. I was told the 614 is what they were building for deere as the 605. It looked like a good tweener of a smaller rubber tire and the larger steel track loader.
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Old 12-08-2009, 08:26 PM   #5
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I saw at the IQ show that Liebherr is selliing the 614 with a quick coupler that takes attachments. I am not sure what it fits but it had a rockland root rake and a 4 in 1 bucket. I was told the 614 is what they were building for deere as the 605. It looked like a good tweener of a smaller rubber tire and the larger steel track loader.
You were told wrong... Deere builds the 605. Probably why its the only good track loader they sell.
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Old 11-22-2009, 10:41 PM   #6
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IMG_0198.JPG if that worked that's what my 43 looks like.
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:05 AM   #7
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I had the salesman send me te article for the loaders. Liebherr makes the 605, 655 and 755 as well as the 950 and 1050 for Deere. Starting in Jan 2010, Deere will start making the 605, 655 and 755. Good luck with the way the loader market has tanked. Here is the link.
http://rermag.com/trends_analysis/su...-relationship/
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Old 12-31-2009, 02:02 PM   #8
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What really would be nice is if they made the 43's again with the ability to run attachments like you can with the ctl's. Could you imagine a tiller or a bush hog attachments on a 43, I have had a few job I could have used something like that on.
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:48 AM   #9
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I think a lot of the problem over here is that too many in the industry have forgotten what a tracked loader will do. Not too long ago I was arguing with two experienced (dozer) operators about what sideslope you could get a 963 on and they were out by nearly twenty degrees. They were both surpised when they saw for themselves. Put a Cat CTL or MTL on the same sideslope and they'll slow to a crawl. (We tried that as well). Don't know whther that goes for other makes? In the UK site agents call for an excavator for everything when a small dozer or tracked loader will often do a better job in less time. Over here until recently it was more usual to see a tracked loader with a 4-in-1 grading than a small dozer, now they stick a D5 or 6 or Komatsu 61/65 on long and wide tracks and Accugrade on the same work, and when they roll it after grading, the levels go all over as the tracks don't compact like the tracked loaders did. If it doesn't move with a 963 dancing on it, it ain't gonna move when you roll it.
I've heard many arguments about whether a loader or excavator the same weight will load a truck the fastest, but try not to get drawn in as there are too many variables.

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Old 01-04-2010, 06:33 PM   #10
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I bought a n 89 943 LGP "Z" series three years ago and find it a very economical and a hard working machine. THe best part is no computers. I can repair almost everything on this machine and it only burns about 3 gallons an hour. I have both a 4n1 bucket and a dirt bucket. I cannot get the 4n1 cat bucket to dig as well as a cat gereral purpose bucket! At 40,000.00 for a very sound machine its hard to beat the value in todays market.
For cat to mfg today this machine today, It would probally to be too close to the cost of a manufacturing a 953, This is what I hae been told happened in the earlier 90's.
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