need help finding track chains rayco T275

[australian pete]

i have a rayco 2000 year model T275 forestry mower i purchased at auction, it is in rough condition and i am slowly rebuilding, need a set of track chains and sprockets, rayco dealer in australia has quoted me $1750 each for sprockets and $15,000 each side for track chains, ( prices are australian dollars) i was shocked at the price, the chains have proTrac marked on them, i cant find proTrac any where on the net, can anyone tell me where to source these chains in australia or where proTrac are based and if any one has purchased new chains from rayco in the US how much were they ?

[Iron Horse]

Google Berco and send them an email . They will have something to fit , may need the measurements . Get a set of SALT chains , i bought a set for a 931 Cat with sprockets and a full set of rollers and a set of track plate bolts and spent under $4000 . I got mine through Komatsu in Brisbane .

[australian pete]

Google Berco and send them an email . They will have something to fit , may need the measurements . Get a set of SALT chains , i bought a set for a 931 Cat with sprockets and a full set of rollers and a set of track plate bolts and spent under $4000 . I got mine through Komatsu in Brisbane .

thanks iron horse, komatsu in sydney are berco agents, westrac(cat dealer) sell a lot of aftermarket track gear, thay sent out a guy who measured the tracks and they are going to quote on chains and sprockets, the hard part is finding sprockets that will fit the rayco and chains to suit those sprockets, there are only 2 rayco T275 machines in australia so no one knows much about what tracks fit,if i dont have any luck with cat i will try berco..

[australian pete]

Google Berco and send them an email . They will have something to fit , may need the measurements . Get a set of SALT chains , i bought a set for a 931 Cat with sprockets and a full set of rollers and a set of track plate bolts and spent under $4000 . I got mine through Komatsu in Brisbane .

forgot to ask, what are SALT chains ??

[Iron Horse]

Sorry , SALT stands for "sealed and lubricated" they last much longer and are superior to non SALT . As for the sprockets , it will be an easy matter to find a pair of outer rings that suit the chains and are of the same diametre as yours . You simply cut off your outer tooth ring and weld on the new ones , if your sprockets are a spoke type you can do it on the machine with an oxy torch . D5 or D6 chains and sprockets will probably go close . Once Komatsu find a machine that has the same chains (with the correct plate bolt patterns) they will have no trouble finding sprockets to suit . Tilly's also sell BERCO .

On edit , can you not turn the pins and bushes or replace the pins and bushes on your chains ? Or are the links shot also ?

maputowhite , Savannah ploughs are the best you can buy here . They are built like tanks , and are well respected .

[John H]

We just orded chains for our c87L. We went aftermarket and told Rayco to stick it after Rayco quoated us some outrageous price. I'll try to get the name we went with.

[australian pete]

We just orded chains for our c87L. We went aftermarket and told Rayco to stick it after Rayco quoated us some outrageous price. I'll try to get the name we went with.

thanks john, rayco seem very greedy with spares prices, i got a price for a new rotor/mill for my T275, the price was $25,000 australian dollars,plus tax, after i got over the shock i decided to have mine repaired, then a few days later the rayco dealer called me back and said rayco USA had contaced him to say the price would be an extra $8,000 because steel prices had gone up. this bought the price to $33,000 australian dollars plus tax, this is about $24,000 US dollars.

[australian pete]

Sorry , SALT stands for "sealed and lubricated" they last much longer and are superior to non SALT . As for the sprockets , it will be an easy matter to find a pair of outer rings that suit the chains and are of the same diametre as yours . You simply cut off your outer tooth ring and weld on the new ones , if your sprockets are a spoke type you can do it on the machine with an oxy torch . D5 or D6 chains and sprockets will probably go close . Once Komatsu find a machine that has the same chains (with the correct plate bolt patterns) they will have no trouble finding sprockets to suit . Tilly's also sell BERCO .

On edit , can you not turn the pins and bushes or replace the pins and bushes on your chains ? Or are the links shot also ?

maputowhite , Savannah ploughs are the best you can buy here . They are built like tanks , and are well respected .

thanks iron horse, i spoke to the westrac guy again yesterday and they are going to have a price next week, i will wait and see what they come up with, if it sounds reasonable i will go with them.

[australian pete]

Sorry , SALT stands for "sealed and lubricated" they last much longer and are superior to non SALT . As for the sprockets , it will be an easy matter to find a pair of outer rings that suit the chains and are of the same diametre as yours . You simply cut off your outer tooth ring and weld on the new ones , if your sprockets are a spoke type you can do it on the machine with an oxy torch . D5 or D6 chains and sprockets will probably go close . Once Komatsu find a machine that has the same chains (with the correct plate bolt patterns) they will have no trouble finding sprockets to suit . Tilly's also sell BERCO .

On edit , can you not turn the pins and bushes or replace the pins and bushes on your chains ? Or are the links shot also ?

maputowhite , Savannah ploughs are the best you can buy here . They are built like tanks , and are well respected .

chains completely shot,

[maputowhite]

might not be the right thread to ask this question on but....here goes.
what's you opinion of the savannah equipment made in oz?
we are going to do a 10000ha land prep operation & the client asked us to use savannah blade plough,bush rake & buck rakes.they presently run a savannah towed grader for fire breaks.any info much appreciated from you guys.

[Willis Bushogin]

i have a rayco 2000 year model T275 forestry mower i purchased at auction, it is in rough condition and i am slowly rebuilding, need a set of track chains and sprockets, rayco dealer in australia has quoted me $1750 each for sprockets and $15,000 each side for track chains, ( prices are australian dollars) i was shocked at the price, the chains have proTrac marked on them, i cant find proTrac any where on the net, can anyone tell me where to source these chains in australia or where proTrac are based and if any one has purchased new chains from rayco in the US how much were they ?

I just replaced my sprockets on my Fecon FTX90L (Rayco C87L) I got them from Berco,I really forgot the price, but I think Rayco wanted $1200 and I got them from Berco for about $600. I did ask them about the chains/rails, but they couldnt find any to match mine. I contacted Fecon themselves (not dealer) and they said they made their own chains/rails for my machine.
As stated before, most any heavy equipment dealer, should be able to help you, it doesnt have to be Rayco.
Good Luck

[Iron Horse]

Steel prices , everyones using that excuse to put up their prices . It's just a scam . I looked at a flail mower for my excavator in June , it was $14,500 . I went to order it last week and they said it was now $19,500 because of the cost of steel . I said your a pack of crooks , the mower weighs 1200 kilograms . Steel was $1 per kilogram and even if it had doubled (which it has'nt) it would only be $1,200 more not $5,000 more , you can keep it now .

Back to the chains , even if you can't get a set with the correct holes to accept the plates . Some of these manufacturers have things changed slightly so you have no choice but to buy from them . It would still be cheaper to buy a pair of complete tracks with plates attached rather than the rediculous amount Rayco wanted for your chains alone .

My Volvo truck needed new front wheel bearings . They were $440 each because they were half a millimetre different to the $40 ones i could buy . They said you have no choice .....wrong thing to say to me . After a skim on the lathe , the hubs now take the cheaper bearings .

[OCR]

My Volvo truck needed new front wheel bearings . They were $440 each because they were half a millimetre different to the $40 ones i could buy . They said you have no choice .....wrong thing to say to me . After a skim on the lathe , the hubs now take the cheaper bearings .

Way to go!! ... Iron Horse.


OCR

[australian pete]

Steel prices , everyones using that excuse to put up their prices . It's just a scam . I looked at a flail mower for my excavator in June , it was $14,500 . I went to order it last week and they said it was now $19,500 because of the cost of steel . I said your a pack of crooks , the mower weighs 1200 kilograms . Steel was $1 per kilogram and even if it had doubled (which it has'nt) it would only be $1,200 more not $5,000 more , you can keep it now .

Back to the chains , even if you can't get a set with the correct holes to accept the plates . Some of these manufacturers have things changed slightly so you have no choice but to buy from them . It would still be cheaper to buy a pair of complete tracks with plates attached rather than the rediculous amount Rayco wanted for your chains alone .

My Volvo truck needed new front wheel bearings . They were $440 each because they were half a millimetre different to the $40 ones i could buy . They said you have no choice .....wrong thing to say to me . After a skim on the lathe , the hubs now take the cheaper bearings .

oh yeah, blaming the steel price is a joke, rayco wanted an extra $8,000 for the rotor because steel had gone up, $8000 would be heaps more than all the steel is worth for the whole mower head, including the rotor,dunno how they can say that with a straight face. if i had to pay rayco $30,000 for a set of chains i would leave it to rot, from what i have found so far a new set of non genuine chains will have a different bolt pattern to my plates, however a new set of non genuine chains and plates will be far cheaper than just chains from rayco, a mate of mine has a plasma cutter and he said it would not cost much to cut new holes in the plates. hopefully will have it all sorted by the end of next week.

[Iron Horse]

a mate of mine has a plasma cutter and he said it would not cost much to cut new holes in the plates. hopefully will have it all sorted by the end of next week.

Have a good look at the bottom of the plates for fret marks caused by the chain links . If they are present the new links will not match up the marks and you will never keep the plates tight .