Any type of Heavy equipment pins/bush 5th wheels anything that "slides" one should use a 5% Moly fortified aluminum or calcium-sulfonate complex thickener base grease,it's very sticky/tacky stays where it's put HIGHLY resistant to wash out/pound out applications not like a Lithium base that will actually mix with water and wash away.
the new Amsoil Off-Road grease is very good as is Schaeffer's #238 Moly
I hate that Mystik is owned by Argentina but their red grease and gear oil has given me excellent service for 20 years so I am scared to change.
Grease that is good for pins and bushings in not even recommended for use in U-joints. u-joint and wheel bearing grease must be lighter and have much higher temp ratings than pin and bushing grease.Originally Posted by Woodstock
Pin and Bushing grease needs to be thicker so it does not get pounded out.
I use Mobile CM with Moly for pins and bushings. They also have mobile CMW for winter use but I don't buy that.
I use Mobile HP with Moly for U-joints and wheel bearings. I also use Mobile HP for pins and bushings in the winter as Mobile CM seems to heavy to use in the Winter.
Grease that is good for pins and bushings in not even recommended for use in U-joints. u-joint and wheel bearing grease must be lighter and have much higher temp ratings than pin and bushing grease.
Pin and Bushing grease needs to be thicker so it does not get pounded out.
I use Mobile CM with Moly for pins and bushings. They also have mobile CMW for winter use but I don't buy that.
I use Mobile HP with Moly for U-joints and wheel bearings. I also use Mobile HP for pins and bushings in the winter as Mobile CM seems to heavy to use in the Winter. Mobil has gotten very expensive however.
Shell SRS2000, recommended by Shell rep. Says it is their top seller around here.
"The reason we are here is that we are not all there"
no offense but yea...he wouldn't say Amsoil...lol
and that grease is sub par very average here,,many better..
1975 FORD 4500 TLB(740/755) Industrial 201 ci Diesel 2236 original hrs
Which grease is Sub Par Shell SRS2000 or Amsoil? Usually Amsoil is too expensive for me.
No the shell im talking,,that's a red grease right?? if it's the same stuff it was crap IMO washed out pounded out mixed with water it was terrible.
for years now we use Schaefer's #238 outstanding grease.
search back i got a post explaining better.
1975 FORD 4500 TLB(740/755) Industrial 201 ci Diesel 2236 original hrs
I was at the Shell depot to pick up some Rotella 15w40 for the diesels and some Rotella T6 for the Duramax, so I figured I might as well pick up some grease as well. (was recommended Shell SRS2000 for use mostly on pins and bushings).
If it is that bad a grease what do the experts here recommend? It has to be available locally (Sudbury, Ontario, Canada) and I don't intend to buy Amsoil until they come out with a superior product that sells at a reasonable / competive price.
My equipment is old but in relatively good condition, paying for amsoil won't make my pins and bushings any tighter, I'll have to do that in the shop.
If I had a brand new machine, I might be tempted to use a premium lube, but in my experience, pins and bushings wear no matter what grease you use and greasing regularly is more important than the brand of grease.
I'll post back when I've had a chance to use the SRS2000 for a while.
"The reason we are here is that we are not all there"
read my post #61
http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/...?t=4479&page=5
highly recommend it,,you can buy it on line reasonably priced and a little goes a long way,you'll find you grease less often because it stays put.
you want a Moly fortified grease,,5%
Last edited by daman; 09-06-2010 at 12:18 PM.
1975 FORD 4500 TLB(740/755) Industrial 201 ci Diesel 2236 original hrs
ive always used the blue castrol and feel it work well. nothing fancy but it gets the job done.
If you read my post I said I wanted to be able to buy it locally, I don't want to wait a week if I run out before I am supplied with grease again.
There is also a 5% moly version of SRS2000, the catch is it costs 40% more. If I am not satisfied with the SRS2000 I may give this a try.
Has anyone found a cost/benefit analysis on the different grease products out there, done by an independent tester? Which grease produces the best results at the lowest cost?
"The reason we are here is that we are not all there"
A simple constant inventory check would cure that no? i'm sure you do that with your other supplies??
and if you have a dealer located by you(zip code search)he'll have it hand for you and no it don't take a week even IF you had to order it.
here click the link and type in your zip code and see if you have a dealer located by you i'd bet you do....
http://www.schaefferoil.com/dealer_locator.html
IF not here is a great web site that will ship it fast.....
http://www.speedpartz.com/oillubepage.htm
this grease is reasonably price and out standing performance.
Last edited by daman; 09-11-2010 at 10:36 PM.
1975 FORD 4500 TLB(740/755) Industrial 201 ci Diesel 2236 original hrs
Ok guys I've read over the replies and now I have quesitons, is this basically a ford, chevy, dodge debate as to what one is the best, can we summarize the different catagories grease falls into and who makes what and who just labels the tubes, I'm thinkng that the one who said maybe all red tacky grease is same and only have different pachage on the outside more like the case but I don't know. Are we comparing chevy to chevy and the only difference is the paint color on the outside,
I agree with norite and asking about an independant tester done any testing on the different products. I understand the moly thing and have used moly and yes I like it and I'd also have to agree with the synthetics are only higher priced I've used lithium grease and several others as well, I'd agree that some grease does some jobs better but does anyone have a cheat sheet so to speak as to what does what job. My oil/grease supplier told me years ago that the only basic difference between grease was the basestocks use to make it and the addatives put into it, so red grease was the same as any other red grease except for maybe an addative here or there, is this true? I'm not lookng for a sales pitch but more of an information pitch on grease. Please keep the replies coming and thanks for the interesting reading so far a lot of these names I've never heard of before.
I've put more customers on Shaeffer 238 and all they want to know is where to buy it. When i first started using it i noticed that a lot less bearing failures in my customers grain drills ....Shaeffer 238 won't pound out.
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