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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    Scrubpuller,

    I agree with you all the way. However, as long as you have the idiot mentality of most of the idiots in this country who sit there and say "I won't drive a diesel because I don't like the smell and the sound of it even though it gets twice the mileage and I won't drive anything I have to shift" as in an automatic transmission as opposed to a standard it will never catch on.

    Everything I have is diesel with the exception of a Jeep Grand Cherokee which my wife drives which is a fuel injected gas job with an automatic which gets about miles to the gallon. If I could get one with a diesel and a standard I would do it in a heart beat.

    Another thing, the attitude of the car builders here, or at least of the former General Motors, now known as obama motors is "we will build what we want and out advertising and sales departments will convince you to buy it as we shove it down your throat. Chevrolet volt is the latest in that department.
    Greg, good points, but you are missing one key item to the lack of diesels in the USA. A three letter agency, known as the EPA, makes it pretty damn hard for small diesels to gain a foothold because they are "dirty"

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    I'm confused, I thought this was a NASCAR thread in TGIF, not a diesel engine thread, or an I don't like roundy racing thread. I frankly thing that NASCAR fans don't care. They don't go to the races to see black diesel smoke, they go to see white tire smoke produced by big gas sucking V8 engines.
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    Yair...oops, darn it I'm upsetting folks again. Sorry to go off topic willie59 but the point I have made is that the world has moved on...it doesn't take a gasoline bent eight to make a little smoke on Sundays.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrub Puller View Post
    Yair...now if they would drop the obsession with spark ignition engines and make the jump to diesels it would be really interesting.

    I'm tongue in cheek of course and laughing but I think the lack of interest in light automotive diesels in the US is a real downer. With the engineering expertise available in the US the industry could build economical two to three litre howlers that would blow your mind away.

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    Scrub Puller Cummings ran a Diesel race car in the Indy 500 in the late 50's or early 60's and one of the reasons we don't have Diesel powered auto here is because of the EPA

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    Didn't care for the pack and crash racing, I think it may need a little tweak.

    And you know the big guns have already figured out how to push the rules of the EFI.
    Don't know the costs, but it may hurt the little teams . You may see a lot more start and parks this year.
    The spotter they interviewed during the fire, stated that was his only car if they won.

    I liked my pre 70's technology, all you needed was a handful of tools. No scan this or that. 20 bucks would fill your tank, buy a meal and the parts, plus you would get change. 6 bucks for 5 gallons of oil, now some places, it's 6 bucks for a quart of oil.

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    For whatever reason, American manufacturers don't offer diesel engines in passenger cars and NASCAR origins were to run cars similar to what was manufactured. They've strayed a long way from that but with chassis advancements yet induction remained technology that was 30 years obsolete. I'm pleased to see the engines reflect more current technology, and there is an art to get the electronics to match the mechanics of the engine.

    As I mentioned, I'd like to see them develop the current engine blocks over the old style, some of these have been in use for over 20 years.

    If at some time manufacturers move to diesel engines, then by all means they should be on the track. Until then, gas will be what we see.

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    GM had the junk 350 diesels in the 80's . I doubt they would have made it a lap on a Nascar track...

    So I guess maybe Harry Gant could have been tooling around in a Buick equipped diesel. Although they weren't offered in a Regal, I'm sure Gm would have built a few for Nascar use,

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    said they going the to race the cup car in nationwide around next year sometime

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    I thought it was kinda sad to watch the best mechanics in the world, standing around a stalled car, not being able to start it!! saying, "we pressed the reset button"..sad, just freakin' sad..

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