racoon skid steer

[RanH]

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[partsonline]

Hi,

If you guys are in need of parts for the Racoon skid steer. I do stock quite a bit up here in Canada. I have work with these skid steers for the past 6 years.

Email me at forkliftbits@gmail.com

Thanks

Pete

[Karl Robbers]

I think these may also be known as Wombat Skid Steer Loaders in Australia. There is information and a pdf brochure available from the Australian distributor - just google WOMBAT SKID STEER LOADER.
There have been several posts about these, (Wombats), on this forum.
I believe they have either a ChinaPerkins or ChinaNissan engine.
I did look at these loaders before I bought my Toyota Huski, (as you have found, one can get a low hour machine for few dollars), what I found was that users fell in to one of two groups. The lovers and the haters.
I hope your machine works out for you.

[smokey1]

I have a HT-65, racoon and I have no complaints with it. It has a perkins, air conditioning,heat, bucket leveling. It's very stong, and sure footed. veiw from cab only fair. Only complaint is trying to get maitanence parts and maintanence documents. The super part of it all is the price, you can buy two of these for the same amount for one case or New Holland equivilant. I think the introduction of these machines was at the wrong time, and china did not want to spend the money to set up a parts suport and service network in the USA. So they lost out.... To intoduce them again now to the usa is going to be very costley and difficult. There is also a Magnum skid steer group that is also the same product built By Hero Time Machinery Co. It looks to me that most of the parts in the machine are not made in china but are surplus from other companies. It looks like they took parts and features from bobcat, case, new holland,cat, and a few others,picked the best and came out with a decent machine. The only thing they left oiut was a service and Sales plan. I only put about 200 hrs a year on the machine and have had only minor problems. I have found no parts in the usa for racoons, but they are out there if you can find the part # of the other manufacturers parts...

[ff1538]

Hello new to the forum I have a racoon HT65 that is not running anyone have a service or parts manual for this machine its a 2007 .

[Jeepwalker]

Based on pictures of the skid steers, they appear to be pretty stout.

BTW, I spent a month in China a year ago traveling all over. Their factories, in general, are top notch (they're new) and the Chinese are really kicking butt. I'm not a lover of the Chinese but they definitely have the momentum these days. With time, the construction equipment will continue to improve a lot. Only thing is, they could have used help on the naming: Racoon, Wombat ..who's idea what that?

[smokey1]

hi ff1538, I have a ht65 racoon skid, I have some manuals, and books but none relate to the ht65 directlly, I just got home from florida vacation and my machine blew the gasket on the oil filter, the oil dumped out blew all over the engine . My son shut it off as soon as he saw the oil trail in yhe snow. Tried to restart it to move into my shop and the Engine has froze up..Havent pulled the oil pan off yet , but it was probabley an oil pump preasure relief failure. If you need any help give me an email..

[smokey1]

My unit is dead Perkins 804c engine blew the oil filter gasket. just before it blew it may have been runing to fast. I suspect the oil reliefe valve failed. it was run for a few minutes before the oil was noticed in the snow . the engine is now froze , and will not turn over. I would like to hear from anybody that has seen this problem. I am in the process of trying to get the pan off,without pulling the engine. The filter was on tight and was only a few months old. The engine was runing normal when it was shut off,it was not hot. but a few minutes latter would not turn over, in either direction. Any help or ideas will be greatly appriciated.also the oil light came on just before it was shut off. The light was labled wrong and my Son thought it was hudraulic fluid spraying all over the place. So he was trying to put it back in the shop, otherwise he would have shut it down a few minutes sooner . Well thats about all I have so far. Now it's up to all you experts. Thanks

[smokey1]

Update, the filter was a NAPA 7106 and the flter screwed in an bottomed out just before it contacted the gasket. the gasket itself has a very poor cut . the engine was very cold at the time and the gasket blew out about a 1 1/2 inch section. It just pushed it out along with all the oil. I notified the napa site along with the factory to see if they have any skin in the game. So far it looks bad for the engine. This lockup happened in a few short minutes. I'll waite a few more days before I pull the engine appart. It had a wako fliter that was subbed out to a wix and when I picked it up it had again been changed to a napa gold. But just looking at the filter and gasket, it has a very loose fit in the slot, and the filter itself hits the center before it gets to the gasket. THE GASKET IS A TALL SKINNY ONE ABOUT 7/16 " HIGH AND 1/8 " WIDE. AND IS LOOSE IN THE SLOT??? I did buy the filter at a perkins engine dealer, and they did all the substitution. This engine also has an addapter unit that is on the engine to turn the filter in a downward direction, so this part could also be out of specification. If any one is interested in the out come I will let you know...

[74inchShovel]

Yes, for sure keep the updates coming. I have a couple of Perkins in service and have ran NAPA filters some times in the past. Maybe not a good idea? We will see.

[smokey1]

From what I found out so far is wix makes the NAPA filters, But the wix filter is not made the same as the NAPA one, the gasket is a lot different. But I was more looking for info now, but it is to early to say it is out of specification, or the addapter itself might be the culperate. . I will post the info as I collect it. in the mean time owners should just be aware when installing these filters. I might have to collect all six available filters that show up on the substitution cross over lists. this one filter might just be a lonely defective one....We plan to pull the oil pan off in the am to inspect the bearings. it's a tight fit to get it off but it's more of a pain to pull the engine. CAT is involved with the perkins engine now, but back when I was looking for the filter they had no info on my machine, They use this filter in a lot of there equipment that uses the perkins 800 series engine. I have sence found there crossover numbers and they do stock the filters. I will keep you informed as the info comes in.

[ff1538]

Just an update the ht65 I have I managed to get it to start it runs quite well apart from water blowing out the exhaust the thermostat was removed before I got it it looks like it had an overheating problem I think it has a blown head gasket it is a Perkins 804c but also has a Mitsubishi S4S label on it so is it a Perkins or Mitsubishi head gasket Smokey1 I also got a oil filter for it from napa it is a wix but i cant remember the # what manuals do you have do you have a service manual or any information regarding the torque setting because it looks like im going to be pulling the head off how is your engine comming after the lock up

[smokey1]

FF1538, that engine had a lot of problems blowing head gaskets back in 2007 and 2008, and I was told , when they sent out the replacement parts they sent out the same bad ones. The new gasket was just a single metal one. I have not had and problems with mine but it looks like a single one. Napa District manager came out to visit me at the end of last week, he took the filter back with him, and planned to send it back to Wix to have it tested. It will take a while to get the report back. In the mean time we pulled the pan off, and the #4 rod bearing had cooked and spun. it only turned a quarter turn on the spin. It did not damage the rod or the cap, but the babbit cooked right to the crank. We also pulled #1 rod and that had a small amount of scoring.. I have to pull the engine out of the machine now , and plan to pull the main bearing caps off next, The rest of the engine removal, should be easy. just the bolts on the flywheel housing are left, and a few wires and hoses. I have no clue how the main hydraulic pump is attached to the flywheel The parts book pictures are real poor. Right now if there are no more bearings spun, I might get off easy if i can clean all the crap off the crank. I still have to solve the problem of why did the filter gasket blow out? If they come back and say the filter is fine then I will have to do more disassembly to the engine. If the filter was deffective then I will just replace all the rod and main bearings , and I can do that without pulling the crank out, or taking the timming cover apart. Now as far as that books I have the skid steer operators manual. the parts book for the skid steers ht-30 thru ht-60aA, I have the perking engine book , but again it not a service type manual, just information about the normal maint requirements. The parts book that China just downloaded to me is incomplete, It shows most of the high use parts but not all . I would be very care full about the head gasket you put into the engine. Now this engine ownership has been drifting around for several years and it is used by CAT in a few of there machines, I also think CAT may even own the rights to it now. Your new head gasket will have the tourque sequence numbers wih it, but you have to be sure you get the right one . I think mitsubitshi has been out of it for several years. Perkins also has a main web sit that will assist you in obtaining the right parts. If you send me your email address I will download the PDF parts book to you if you like. china seems to have dropped out of the picture, but somtimes it takes several days to just get an email answered. I have been looking around for the engine service manual for the 800 series machines and I hav'nt found one yet. I might goto CAT next. Cat uses that engine in one of there popular fork lifts. I won't have any more info until I get the engine out and tipped upside down. I'll get back to you I saw all the torques specs for the engine somewhere, but again if they changed the gasket I'm sure the numbers would also change.

[ff1538]

Smokey, Thanks for the information this machine only has just over 500 hrs on it and is really clean I thought I got a deal when I picked this up originally it wouldn't start and would only turn over very slowly I changed the battery and had the starter checked it still only turns over slowly for the first few turns then turns faster and starts I think maybe the water from the bad head gasket is getting to the rings and rusting up once it starts it seems OK until I leave it for a while then the same thing I have a Perkins dealer close to where I work when I decide to pull the head I will call in to see if he has any info on the head gasket not to long ago I removed an engine from a cat 257b skid steer for a friend when you have taken all the bolts from the bell housing and engine mounts the engine just pulls forward there is a splined coupling between the engine and the hydraulic pump I put some 2x4 under the pump so it didn't drop down and made it a bit easier to re install the engine it still is a pain to line up the coupling I did this by myself so if you have helpers available it will be a lot easier thanks for the offer of the PDF manual I will send you my email if I can figure out how to do it. ff1538

[ff1538]

Smokey My Email is greenhalghkeith@hotmail.com Thanks ff1538