Smallest push cat?

[wnydirtguy]

I know it is a silly question but I figure what the heck. What is the smallest dozer you have pushed with. Was self loading the other day finishing up a little job and got to some hard wet clay and need a little help. So what all I had was the good old 850 case and the nice 750J deere with GPS. So instead of smoking a tranny we pushed with the 850http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif. looked funny as could be but work great in a pinch. So it got me wondering if any one else had to "make it work".
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[hvy 1ton]

You got me beat bad. Smallest i've seen used was a 5M PAT on a wetland project couple years ago. There were 2 613's and a 611. They were pushing the open bowl through the really nasty stuff and the dozer was finish grading in between pushes. Whatever works, right?

[CAT D7 man]

Used an old D6 8U stickshift to pushload elevating JD760s in Oklahoma's muddy red clay while working a housing development.

[trainwreck]

we have pushed our 613s with a jd650 before. it worked great for what we were doing.

[JTL]

I was pushing a 613 with a D4C through sand a couple years ago. Worked pretty slick.

[Taylortractornu]

At work the landfill we run we use kiln dried saw dust to make a nonslip road surface for winter. After a few weeks if its wet it will sour and smell. Ill make a few long pushes with the D5B and let what spills off my blade makes aomd good windrows. The 762 wont pull it without spinning the road up. I got to pushing the 762 with the 5B. The 762 isnt real beefy in the rear but you can lightly pus them for traction. ill lett him load it and take it to the compost piles. Ive even done this with a D3C.

[Deeretime]

pushed our 27s with our old 850B... helped but wasnt great

[Greg]

put my D3 behind a D7 pulling a No. 70 pan. Was more for feel good support.

[Jim Irwin]

I got told as a youngster, to never push load an elevating scraper.

The draft arms and neck were never designed for it.

Anyone else heard the same?

[crayton]

As a young lad my dad had an HD 5 AC farm cat with a dozer. The county was building a new road through our place and was using a D 8 and cable scraper. I came up behind the outfit unbeknown to the operator and gave him a push. Don't think he even knew I was back there. When he got loaded I sliped into 5th gear and rattled up alongside him so he stopped, looked down at me, spit on the track and hollered over to me. "Why don't you park that thing alongside this one tonight and let er suck awhile."

[sprknranger]

Haha, I had a John Deere 450 help push me through a wet fill while I was on a 651 cat! He just happened to be tracking through the fill when I spun out and I just needed a slight nudge to make it! But as far as pushcat in the cut, a single D6 pushing on a 651 for a little T&M project is the smallest I've seen.

[1970Cat16]

As a young lad my dad had an HD 5 AC farm cat with a dozer. The county was building a new road through our place and was using a D 8 and cable scraper. I came up behind the outfit unbeknown to the operator and gave him a push. Don't think he even knew I was back there. When he got loaded I sliped into 5th gear and rattled up alongside him so he stopped, looked down at me, spit on the track and hollered over to me. "Why don't you park that thing alongside this one tonight and let er suck awhile."

OMG!!!!! Your dads remembering shook cobwebs from me, reminds me of the good ol days when big d9 and d8s ruled the land clearing world!!!lol

[buckfever]

As a young lad my dad had an HD 5 AC farm cat with a dozer. The county was building a new road through our place and was using a D 8 and cable scraper. I came up behind the outfit unbeknown to the operator and gave him a push. Don't think he even knew I was back there. When he got loaded I sliped into 5th gear and rattled up alongside him so he stopped, looked down at me, spit on the track and hollered over to me. "Why don't you park that thing alongside this one tonight and let er suck awhile."

I got to find a reason to use that tomarrow.

[Showpony]

Yes Jim I agree , best use for the back end of an elevating scraper is a tow hitch for your ute

[RDG]

We used to regulary push load E 211s & 412s with TD 15B/Cs back in NZ, never had any problems with draught arms etc. The main thing was for the dozer operator to ease off on the power as the bowl filled to allow the elevator to keep turning at max speed rather than stall it out. The main reason for pushing was in slippery going traction, or lack of it was the problem, the dozer was there to provide forward motion while the elevator did the loading, scraper was usually in N with full power to the elevator and the dozer controlled the forward speed. Worked well. Cheers RDG.