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    New Terex Skid Steers?

    I know there brand new but has anyone got one of the new rubber tire units? I'm thinking of getting a new TSR 70

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    Aren't they based on the ASV positracks?

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    Terex bought ASV. Asv never sold rubber tired machines.

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    they are new, and based off the terex track machines, or what used to be asv. seems to me there are better options out there for a skid steer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave esterns View Post
    they are new, and based off the terex track machines, or what used to be asv. seems to me there are better options out there for a skid steer.
    Alas...you speak once again from lack of knowledge..not shocked.

    My Case dealer told me that they are not based off of the track machines. They were designed entirely from the ground up as a skid steer, but they share about 50% of of the same components- joystick controls, pumps, engines, etc.

    The dealer has had several of his guys demo them down in Memphis and by invitation for feedback traveled multiple times during the testing development stages to the factory in MN and he said Terex did a helluva good job for their first skid steer. He said the 60hp machine performed remarkably well, had good visibility, had over 10" of ground clearance, standard metal face seals on the axles, good engine torque, real fast two speed ( I think he said 12mph), a real big fuel tank and a fully pressurized cab modeled after their forestry machine. It reminded him of the 1845 for power- his exact words were that "it had power for days". He also like the big machines, but didn't really care for the entry and exit of that machine. He also said that Terex has had to double production already due to demand.

    Shoot Dave, they might even sell more skid steers this year than your new fandangled JCB!

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    haha it seems that i am gaining quite the reputation...

    ah...what other term would you use besides "based on" when the skid steer has 50% of its parts from the track machine?

    i looked into the terex skid steers a couple months back. they are significantly longer than their competition on certain models. their machine that would compete with my bobcat is around 5 inches longer if i recall correctly. as soon as i noticed that i lost interest.

    my question is what took everyone so long to get into the skid steer business. how did no one notice bobcat has been making out like a bandit all these years.

    either way, with all these new players, the profit margins will get slimmer. seems like a good time for bobcat to get out. well i guess they already did with the doosan shenanigans.

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    ah, the fact that a new skid steer player would not make a machine to compete directly with the best selling size machine of all time is beyond me. i often wondered why it took new holland so long to do this as well. seems to me if i had a manufacturing business that would be my first order of business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave esterns View Post
    ah, the fact that a new skid steer player would not make a machine to compete directly with the best selling size machine of all time is beyond me. i often wondered why it took new holland so long to do this as well. seems to me if i had a manufacturing business that would be my first order of business.
    I'm not catching your drift???? I just got off of Terex's website and they're coming out with 8 skid steers 4 radial and 4 vertical. I don't really see a major part of the market that they miss with their models. Here's a link from their website that talks about their machines- http://terexrealitycheck.com/

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    A couple things that jumped out at me was the entry into the cab is poor. The tilt cylinders have the ports for the hyds turned up, which will bound to be sheared off when rock or concrete get between the bucket and hyd. cylinders. The cab seemed comfortable. I would like to run one.
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    howcome jcb is newfangled and terex is not?

    well i have a bobcat s185. i wish it was a 205. so when i go to purchase a new skid steer i look at the dimensional specs. our operation is tight and we dont have space for a bigger skid steer. (all my numbers are from memory here but they get the point across). so i look at cat and terex (and new holland up until recently), and their 1850-2050 rated machines are 107 inches long as opposed to my bobcats 102 inches! thats a 5 inch difference in length!! that is huge! sometimes 5 inches is the difference between an entire frame size in a skid steer. the 95 to 102 inch frame has always been the most sold size skid steer. so i dont see why companies dont make something in that size. (im talking vertical lift here on all this) another thing is bobcats 2000 pound machines is 68 inches wide, and many other companies are more like 74 inches, so again a machine we cant use. (like a case s3 435)

    so it is frustrating that people dont make a machine that is our size so my choices are limited. oh and i am assuming jcb will be smart enough to make a machine the same size as bobcats 185 like case and new holland just did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave esterns View Post
    howcome jcb is newfangled and terex is not?

    well i have a bobcat s185. i wish it was a 205. so when i go to purchase a new skid steer i look at the dimensional specs. our operation is tight and we dont have space for a bigger skid steer. (all my numbers are from memory here but they get the point across). so i look at cat and terex (and new holland up until recently), and their 1850-2050 rated machines are 107 inches long as opposed to my bobcats 102 inches! thats a 5 inch difference in length!! that is huge! sometimes 5 inches is the difference between an entire frame size in a skid steer. the 95 to 102 inch frame has always been the most sold size skid steer. so i dont see why companies dont make something in that size. (im talking vertical lift here on all this) another thing is bobcats 2000 pound machines is 68 inches wide, and many other companies are more like 74 inches, so again a machine we cant use. (like a case s3 435)

    so it is frustrating that people dont make a machine that is our size so my choices are limited. oh and i am assuming jcb will be smart enough to make a machine the same size as bobcats 185 like case and new holland just did.
    Good call on "new fandangled". Both SSLs are new even though JCB has been building them longer.

    I'll give you one reason why the S185 is shorter than the others....transverse mounted engine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSSS View Post
    A couple things that jumped out at me was the entry into the cab is poor. The tilt cylinders have the ports for the hyds turned up, which will bound to be sheared off when rock or concrete get between the bucket and hyd. cylinders. The cab seemed comfortable. I would like to run one.
    I fully agree with you on the entry of the large machines based on the brochures. I don't think the small machines look as bad, but I haven't had the chance to sit in one yet. i plan on getting in them early this spring.

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    really 5 inches front to back is that important? not to me a smart @ss but when does that really matter that much? i have a 236 cat and a 277b cat and the width i get, some times i can't get in between two posts. but length? if you where twisting in a tight area i guess but i would hate to think that i would take a smaller machine for the rare few times this would be a problem. agian not trying to be smart but what do you do that is that tight?

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    well i run a dairy operation. the free stall barn is the biggest issue. we need to be able to turn in the 7 foot alley with 12 inch curbs and freestalls that are about 9 foot apart at rear door height. we are limited to width, length, wheelbase, and rear angle of departure here. u got no room. the tires hit both curbs, the back door likes to hit the freestalls, and the rear of the frame scrapes on the curbs when the tires get wore. we could solve this problem if we had 300k for a new barn. also we have 4 other buildings and the dummy who built them made them for a bobcat 743 to run around in. so you are always turning in super tight spaces (because of the "large" s185 size). sometimes you back up till you hit something and then try to get your forks out of the bale by raising the boom and trying to tilt them out when setting the bale in the feeder. [the tight spaces are why im a little concerned about going to iso joysticks because im not convinced most operators need the controllability that i do.] also when you open gates and try to get around the corner with the gate open, with 2 walls at 90 degrees, often times i locate the end of the gate between the two tires as i am turning to gain the few inches to get around the corner. the back of the skid steer is always hitting things which is why i like the solid bobcat rear door. stacking bales in a machine shed is another time you want a short machine because you have 2 small doors on the shed and you have to try to pack the shed solid with bales so you get in real tight spots there. 5 inches would render a skid steer useless on several occasions every day on our operation and would represent a serious inconvenience probably 35% of the time you are using it. by the way we have inset rims on the skid steer so it is only 60 inches wide. if it was up to me i wouldnt own a skid steer but its a necessary evil on the operation.

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