I like that! Good ole field engineering.
I like that! Good ole field engineering.
Making it work with what you got...aggie engineering style. Nice work Goldtrigger.
Two steps forward and a giant leap backwards. We were finally back at it last night, just before a small thunderstorm blew in. We toted the generator and air compressor out to the ranch and the plan was to pull the badly damaged pinion shaft and put the new one in and polish the mating surfaces of the final drive before we put it together this morning. We locked the brakes as Malcomb suggested and slowly pulled the shaft out, about 4 inches and that was all she would move! We rolled it around tried several different angles and it was a no go. Got on the phone to Willie and Duane up at Chartrand in Illinois, and read off the serial number of the Beast, and guess what, the Beast is a new series machine and has a snap ring that holds the pinion shaft in so we have to pull the top off the brake assembly to get to the snap ring. Aarrgh! Because we have rippers, we have pull the fuel tank, which we just topped off, and just about everything else on the top of the loader. Pictures of this mess to follow!
It sounds like your working conditions are similar to mine. I'm not looking foward to doing any major jobs on my stuff.
Bugger I have to say after many years looking after TD15s and 175s I have never had to lift the top rear cover , Pity I am so far away I would love to come and have a look best of luck
regards Malcolm
here are the pictures. We had a huge thunderstorm Saturday night, maybe a small tornado. With any luck, it might have blown it away, fat chance! After my morning real job, I am on my way out to the ranch to see what is left and vacuum out the battery well and see what is down there. As a fat boy standing on my head trying to see what is down there, it is not fun. Too many hoses and cables. The manuals are not real clear as to what goes where so will just have to start disconnecting see what comes loose. I may drag the power washer back out there and give it a go to see if it clarifies the battery well any.
The best of luck....I wish the pics were bigger.
Sha-zam! That doesn't sound like a quick job. That's a real shame Goldtrigger. Hopefully your manual's got a pretty good procedure for the disassembly. I know what you mean about the miriad of hoses and cables under the seat. Hope you get it going without too much of a headache.Originally Posted by Goldtrigger
I will try to make the pics bigger. I have them at 3 mg pixels but could not upload them.
A thought
can you get the round pto shaft cover plate of the rear , maybee you could reach the circlip from there it dosent look far from the rear cover to where the circlip willbe
there must be an access hole along side the crown wheel
best of luck malcolm
Last edited by malcolm; 05-27-2011 at 01:04 AM.
Malcom, Thanks for the picture. You have made it infintely more clear than the picture in our manual. Do you have phone number we can call you? An international phonecall might be worth the money to help us. We have been talking to Chartrand and they tell us we cannot get to this snap ring from the pto entry. Would you have any other pictures better than this one? According to Chartrand, there is a small plate accessable from the back of the loader, under the fuel tank, held down by 4 bolts that, when removed, allow us to remove the cable that drives the brake pack. Once that is disconnected, we can remove the entire outer final drive carrier with the pinion shaft entact and get to the snap ring. Does that sound right? Our concern is having the brake clutches fall down and not being able to get the shaft back into the loader.
Hi I had assumed the circlip was on the inner end of the shaft it looks now it is either on the inner side of the brake assy or on the inside of the inside pinion
brg . It makes more sense now to disconnect the brake cable and remove the inner final drive housing you are nearly there just another ring of tight bolts.
The whole brake assy will come out with that housing virtually all the black pieces in the drawing. the housing holding the brake discs is bolted to it as well
so will stay together and go back the same way .If you can not reach the lower end of the cable just disconnect the top end and push it inside to come out with
everything else maybee tie a small rope to it for more control .
. You will have to balance it fairly square to get the shaft out of the clutch disc and the inner gear ,
Again the clutch disc will stay clamped tight as long as you dont pull the lever .I dont have any more drawings just memories but you are saving your self a lot
of work this way you will also be able easily line up the brake discs as you put the new shaft through as they will be right there my ph no is 09 2381116 feel free
any time regards malcolm
More Aggie engineering. Walt and I started work at 0600 this morning loosining the big bolts on the inner final drive carrier. We had concerns about how we were going to get the one's on the lower side loose. The 3/4 socket set on the 3/4 breaker just would not fit on some of them. 1 1/8" is their size so a open/box wrench was the next option, but we had to come up with a way to get enough torque to break them loose.
Solution, Using Walt's Kubota Gator's winch, we hooked the winch cable to the box wrench while I held it and Walt operated the winch. Once broken loose, all but one were finger loose
Next problem was getting all the crud off the small plate under the fuel tank. Back the 25 miles to town to haul out a barrel of water and the power washer and power wash everything under the seat and under the fuel tank. Once that was clean, the bolts on the small plate were visible and came loose with the air ratchet.
As you can see, we can see the cable we need to disconnect to complete the disassembly.Problem is, you need a skinny, tripple-jointed arm to reach down the six or so inches to disconnect that pin so we can pull the assembly from the loader
Conclusion, the fuel tank, ripper control and hydraulic tank MUST come off to give us room to pull this pin, but more importantly, hook it back up when we reassemble!
By that point it was just after 1230 and about 100 Degrees and we were done for this weekend. Happy Memorial Day to all you Vets!
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