LOL .... andoman I know a rack would answer our probs but they still don't make micro light attachments that inflate to reg size on jobsite to be normal..... just add water and watch it grow .... LOL ... and .... well I already gotto sneak around over loaded with weight .... ohhh the joys of being versatile ....but ya if I have to i'll load 'er up on the tandem dump and tag trlr
KSSS
I originally thought the plate compacter would push the material and changing the grade would be a problem. That turned out not to be the case as long as you have the plate fairly level it just slides along the surface just like a regular plate compactor. Depending on your final lift depth we usually place material .5" to an 1" higher and then pound it down to the grade height.
Originally Posted by CRAFT
Just saying that's what we do, but we have high weight limits here in michigan. Good luck with the purchase.
I hear you Andoman ..... We have these stupid things where they take the advertised GCVWR and think its gospel ....just a pain in the butt .... was just joken with Ksss that you pretty much have to pack the whole back yard with you when going to the job site just to make a living.
Did a fencing job last year where I had to pack the Skid, post pounder, ind. grapple, 2 buckets, stump grinder, pallet forks, rotary mulcher, Quad & fencing trailer with all the hand tools and chain saws just so I wouldn't have to pack the skid back and forth to load it all twice .... I know I was well over 30,000 #'s and no axel or tire was over .... but GCVWR ??? ... 23,750#'s... the distance was just far enough to warrant doing that ..... now I want to get a packer but maybe we have to have 2 types to take to the jobs ..... any how just having fun with your idea which is a good-one BTW ..... Happy Easter !
KSSS .... I tried to find Steyr with no luck you wouldn't happen to have a link for them ? ....Thanx
I got my Steyr and Stehr confused. Here it is.
http://www.stehr.com/en/Products/Pla...ompactors.html
One of these sold on IP this Winter I recall
Last edited by KSSS; 04-03-2010 at 09:19 PM.
I should have known better too .... and tried the diff spelling...
NOW that is a different concept , have you ever priced the skid SBV 55 H3 out ?
I have not. The one on IP went very reasonable as I recall. Good to know that these don't change the grade. I would think that with three individual plates that the compaction rate must be really impressive.
has anyone else have experience with a packer on a skid steer. I am in the market for one but what is going to be the best choice
has anyone else have experience with a packer on a skid steer. I am in the market for one but what is going to be the best choice
The website does not list a US dealer. Are they available here?
Did you ever buy one of these? How did it work on your A300?
I have seen a triple plate set up before. It was on the back of a small grader (in place of the rippers). The grader was made by Pucket. It was an O/O and he specialized in slab prep for very large commercial buildings. I used to have a customer (back when I lived in CA) who built large concrete tilt-ups for industrial customers and they had hired him.
I wound up buying an "ALLIED SKID-PAC" ..... it works awesome and has stood up very very well ...... I have also adapted it to fit my 312 Cat excavator which works too cool as a wide hoe pac ... works good that way to grade off slab prep areas or forming ditch lines over a bank or? where the wheel machine can't go.... I built an adaptor plate mounted on the bottom of the skid-pac and we used it last fall to probe and vibrate in fence posts (5 miles of range fencing) .... it made the job for me
What kind of lifts are you getting away with? I already own an RT 820 walk behind and when I compared the frequencies and impact energy between the two the Skid-Pac pailed. You have an RT don't you? How do the (2) compare in the real world?
If I wanted to get greedy I could lay down up to 18" of the 3" minus pitrun .... but that was after going back and forth with the skid grading to the level we were trying to achieve, so you could say there was a bit of compaction already done before the skid-pac touched it ..... the thicker you lay down the longer you took before the next lift .... we found the 6-12" lift was premium and way quicker to compact maybe only 2 passes with the skid ..... the amount of moister in the gravel has alot to do with the thickness of each lift as well, we laid down alot of water in between and during each lift
Not quite sure what you mean by "pailed" ? ..... I'm not familiar with the RT820 walk behind (regarding size....double or single drum) but I have used walk behind doubles and they might be OK to do sidewalks but a Parking Lot? .... NOT ...... WAY TOO slow, and no control of the leveling ...lots of hand work or grading with a bucket where as the Skid-Pac can be controlled to either grade and compact or just plain compact .... it really does work well taking off high spots and carrying to the low spots.
As a small follow up from that job I did back in 2010 .... it was a Firehall job that was for where the trucks pulled up and swung into (backing up into) the hall ..... Last year in the spring break-up (a term we use up here where when the frost comes out of the ground and EVERYTHING gets really really soft) the heavy fire trucks NEVER sunk down more than an inch into the gravel .... I did use a geotextile fabric about a foot from the surface and compacted to ~95 % proctor ... which allowed the water to go down but not back up year round, it stayed tight so the amount of moister left in the surface was not enough to heave alot when it froze. Simular jobs that I had done before owning the Skid-pac, there was alot of sinking into the gravel during break-up (up to 5 & 6" ruts) or in rainy seasons ....... speaking of which the skid-pac works great for fixing those drives, pounding down the centre of the road way and beating the crap outta those big rocks that seem to always work their way to the top, filling in the low spots as well .... its all in the angle of attack at the plate .............. as posted before, there is a short learning curve to running one ...... you will start to invent things to do with it ......... cheers for now
Pailed as in the term "pailed in comparison" or "That one pails in comparison to the other one". The specs for the RT are much higher frequencies and impact energy. The RT is 32" wide, double drum, 2900#, made by Wacker, and it's the one that articulates. I only do 8-12" lifts-max with the RT. 8" if trying to reach 95% modified proctor. As far using the Skid-Pac to make grade I can see the advantage. You are somewhat correct regarding not having control of the leveling with the walk behind. We usually try to anticipate the amount of shinkage. I also like to build the fill high and then cut it back to grade.
Your comments have fueled my interest. How much do they cost? Any items that required repairs yet? You mentioned using it on your 312 too. I thought I might be able to mount to my 315, as well, when looking at the site. There must be a pretty big difference in flow between the (2) units. I think the A300 has about 34 GPM and my 315 was measured at 43 GPM, at the stick, through my double acting auxilary circuit. Different hose sizes too. Doesn't this create any problems (like excessive heat)? Is the plate any wider than the skid? Have you tried it on dirt too?
I do a lot of custom residential so I do quite a bit of slab prep (garages, driveways, and porches/patios) that usually require 12" of structural fill (we usually use class 6, 3/4" ABC). Thanks for all the information.
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