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    Bought an Allied Ho pac

    Found a Ho Pac on Craigslist. Very low hours with a 24 x 36 inch plate. I want to use it for pounding posts as well as compacting. I have never used one. Any tips or ideas?

    I paid $1500. Thought it was a great deal as I saw a used one closer to me for $4500. Allied has a good reputation with you guys.
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    We have a Allied and they have a good reputation and have been around for many years.

    http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/...ad.php?t=13653


    What model is your Allied and what are you putting it on?

    Also is your machine already plumbed for one?


    Looks like it is a 1000 and same size as our 8700.

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    I have a Case CX135 to put it on. I have to deal with the plumbing. Hoping to branch off the thumb lines with a valve on each side. Will talk to my dealer. They quoted me $6000 for another auxillary circuit.
    Need to check on the output of the thumb and the Ho Pac requirements.

    Below the serial number is a number 003810. Would this be the model ?? Can't find any other numbers on it. Allied dealer would have some info on it??

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    WOW ! .... what a great score Timmy ! .... if you find that it is to big (Gpm) for your hoe let me know ....I too am lookng for a larger one in and around the 16,000# size like the 2300 Allied ....Congrates again ! ..... ps ...did you have to go far to get it ?

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    It definitely looks like a model 1000, here is link to tech manual below.

    http://www.alliedcp.com/pdf/manuals/...00_techman.pdf

    That model can come with a 12, 18, or 21 gpm motor, but most have the 21 gpm motor. And you will need a return line to the tank and not through a valve preferably. So I don't think your thumb circuit will work.

    I got the hydraulic kit for ours from Allied, very good kit complete with tubing bent to fit the specific machine, valves, fittings, etc. And it was a lot cheaper than the JD dealer. If I remember right I think I paid about $1800 for the kit plus another $500 to have it installed. Also my kit came with a flow control valve with 3 settings so I can turn it up to 30 gpm for our hammer.

    http://www.alliedcp.com/products/install.asp

    Other good companies for kits made specifically for each machine.

    HKX, in Washington
    http://www.hkx.com/cms/

    HCT, in Georgia
    http://www.hctkits.com/


    Forgot to mention: Nice that it has the VMS vary mount system, so that it can be adapted to different machines. Did it come with all the pieces for the mount?
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    Hello Craft. I went to Seattle. The VMS is complete.

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    ALLIED dealer agrees that it is an Allied 1000 Ho Pac.

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    BTW .... which dealer did you go to ? .... the one in Port Kells (Surrey)

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    Van-Ed Equipment in Surrey answered my question from an e-mail I sent.

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    YUP ! ...thats the one I was refering to ...talked to Jerry the other day there, and am going to make a trip there very soon .....VERY Very helpful outfit he sent me a bunch of compaction info....will probably rent one before I buy to find out which is better suited for what I need to do

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    Here is a friend's Ho Pac that he adapted to pound posts and added a spike that pins to the collar to split some large fir tree rounds. He said it also worked great for breaking concrete. I am going to copy it. He welded a tooth directly onto the spike. I have a tooth shank I will use so that I can change out the tooth if it wears out. The collar is 6" od and 3/4" thick. Plenty strong.

    Any concerns about using the hopac to break concrete?
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    I would watch the rubber mounts on the hoe pac. I think vibrating posts in the ground is fine as long as you let the attachment do the work and don't force it with too much down pressure. I don't think that breaking concrete is a real great idea.
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    I picked up my excavator from the Case dealer Saturday. I got them to plumb the hydraulics for the Ho Pac. I tried it out on the edge of the yard. Works good.
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    I purchased a Stanley HS6005 attachment for my IHI 65nx recently at a Ritchie auction - works real well for pushing posts in - however i have not welded on a peice of pipe yet to hold the posts.

    For those of you using these packers to drive posts - any recommendations? The idea of welding a short chunk of pipe directly to the bottom plate seems wrong to me - does it make sense to go through the work of having a bolt on plate (similar to above pictures in above post )?

    Also, the manual i found online for this packer recommends having the post in the front 1/3 of the plate for the most effective driving (creates a "slap" effect, where having it in the center creates a "rocking" motion). Do you think this is something specific to stanley's design or in general a good idea?

    Thanks in advance for your comments.

    Ben

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    i have a brand new allied 1000 hoepac $3000

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