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Both Big Cats are home...

TimT

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Junkyard

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I looked outside and I don't see them anywhere on my yard.


Oh wait, you mean your home! Haha.

Nice lookin iron. You're lucky they're far away or you'd have competition!
 

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I have another week of vacation left this year, I can run one end of the tug-o-war then we'll switch machines to ensure an unbiased end result :)
 

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Make real sure the cable you use is up to the task. These two will generate serious pull.
 

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I've heard the claim a TD25 would push a D8 uphill backward. A chance to find out
I can only say this... The TD-25C is one powerful tractor. I LOVE both machines, and comparing my 1961 36A direct drive to the TD-25 would not be fair as the 1975 25 is heavier and more powerful, I would say that the TD-25C would give a D8K a real hard time. The 25C is recognized as THE most potent tractor in that size class hands down. It is a very strong tractor, with the D817C engine, "310Plus HP| inboard planetary drive and lower center of gravity. I have heard no one that operated them say they were not a very powerful machine. I have run a later model D8H on train wrecks and worked right next to a TD-25C both moving railroad cars... the 25 smoked the 8H on several occasions. I can also say this, the AC HD-21 was also a very good tractor in certain applications. Very strong machine also... Not talking about FA's just the AC machine.
 

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My friend (RIP) Charlie Abbott felt the IH tractors were special. He owned perhaps a dozen 175s, at least 1 150, two TD7E, a TD25C, and a TD15C. He spoke in glowing terms of the TD25C.

His TD15C is nearby now. It sits unused. It has undercarriage maybe twenty years old, but unused. He brought it home with the undercarriage installed, but it never in his life left the yard.
 

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Used to shoot woodchucks at a nearby farm, the 'ol boy had lots of rockpiles in the fields. Behind the barns were 3 TD25's, one for parts, the others were useable at one point in time.

Once you got close to the rockpiles, it was obvious why he had 2 running TD25's.....they weren't rockpiles, boulder piles was a better description. Many were the size of a small car, others much larger.

The glaciers weren't kind to Ivan.

Ed
 

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Hi, new to the site nice looking machines. I always wonder where the Dresser machines fell into the pecking order of Dozers. Sounds like they are powerful machines.
 

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Hi, new to the site nice looking machines. I always wonder where the Dresser machines fell into the pecking order of Dozers. Sounds like they are powerful machines.
Relay its an International.. built way before Dresser bought the construction line from IH... But in the day IH was number two after Caterpillar in heavy equipment. For many years the TD-24 was the biggest baddest machine. IH had lots of innovative ideas and for the most part built very fine machines. The IH 175 and 250 were some of the best track loaders ever built.The TD-25B and C were the very best of the IH/Dresser Big tractors.
 

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Around here IH was a good name, lots of dealer support until the Dresser change. Same happened to Allis when Fiat got their hand in that pie. Only two survivors of any note Cat and Deere but neither of those are built US much anymore either. I liked the old 250 loaders, dependable, heavy and pretty much bullet proof. 125s were a little light much as Allis were, the TDseries 20, 24 and 25 were awesome machines.
 

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Around here IH was a good name, lots of dealer support until the Dresser change. Same happened to Allis when Fiat got their hand in that pie. Only two survivors of any note Cat and Deere but neither of those are built US much anymore either. I liked the old 250 loaders, dependable, heavy and pretty much bullet proof. 125s were a little light much as Allis were, the TDseries 20, 24 and 25 were awesome machines.[/QUOTE
100 per cent agree.Part of the reason I bought these machines is the history they represent. They were built in the heyday of BIG jobs. Not real old/ but still mostly old school. It helps keep my memories fresh to have these machines here/saved. Thank heavens for all the folks who collect and save old machinery, trucks, etc.
I think the majority of younger people today have no clue what built this country or the world for that matter. Noise, smoke and dust built the vast majority of this world.
 

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Thanks for the information on the IH/Dresser. My favorite of the big track machines is the 977 Cat. How do the 175 and 250 compare in size to the 977?
 

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IH/Dresser 250C & E are close to a 977, I consider them more nimble than the cat. 47,000# average weight compared to closer to 48,000 977K/L. The E was the last, disc. 1991.
 

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IH/Dresser 250C & E are close to a 977, I consider them more nimble than the cat. 47,000# average weight compared to closer to 48,000 977K/L. The E was the last, disc. 1991.

DM, I think you are a bit heavy on the 977L. I ran a new one in the mid 70's with the GP bucket on it & no other attachments & I believe it was closer to 44,000 lbs. What does Ritchie Wiki say? They are not always correct either though.
 
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