I know it seems many are against a 200 on a tag, but i've been doing it behind tandem dump and find it pulls great, and no problems whatsoever. But I need to buy my own truck, and I am wondering how many have done it with a single axle? The hoe and trailer weight about 62,000lbs, I would need about 9,000lbs pin weight to be legal on trailer axles. However, that is with bucket on hoe, and extra bucket too, if I had to i'd be open to putting both buckets on deck of truck which would save about 4500lbs.
The reason I want a single axle is to get around more places, and also use it to pull my mini ex and a skidsteer I will be buying on a 20 ton tag. I know I would need a big motor, heavy axles, etc to make the truck heavy.
It will be a bit of a unicorn to find, but there is some 500+hp with 10 speeds in daycab tractors, and hopefully get 14 or 16 front with 23 rear. Ideally want a big longer wheelbase to make sure steers don't get light. From what i've found, the truck as a tractor would weight a little over 13,000lbs and by the time I put a deck, slip tank, hitch, etc I am guessing it would be up to about 16,500lbs. The tandem dump I pull it with now is pretty much right on 20,000lbs, it's a light international, only 330hp with allison. Front end doesn't get light at all, and I believe empty it's about 8500 front 11500 rears. So the single axle would actually be heavier in the front end by a bit.
For simplicity, if the single axle had the same weight on front axle, and say rear was 3500lbs less, and the same wheelbase would it not be about the same as far as steer axle is concerned? What about if buckets were on deck, and the single axle actually weighted more then the dump?
I can still borrow the tandem dump for any out of town jobs, it will simply be moving it in the city, maybe 15 times a year. I just need a way to move it myself as the dump is too busy in the summer otherwise. I wouldn't consider it if I was going to be moving it on the highway, but it will never see that as my yard is right on the edge of the city so I don't need to ever go over 45 MPH with it. The reason i'm not looking at a tandem dump is the cost, for any sort of decent truck i'm looking at $50k and even that doesn't buy much. Meanwhile I can get a really nice single axle for $20-30k.
I'm not worried about the weight behind the truck, there's enough single axles grossing over 100,000lbs all the time on the highway and it wouldn't be done if they didn't do fine. It's the pin weight of the pintle i'm concerned about how it will handle with one less axle on the truck.
The reason I want a single axle is to get around more places, and also use it to pull my mini ex and a skidsteer I will be buying on a 20 ton tag. I know I would need a big motor, heavy axles, etc to make the truck heavy.
It will be a bit of a unicorn to find, but there is some 500+hp with 10 speeds in daycab tractors, and hopefully get 14 or 16 front with 23 rear. Ideally want a big longer wheelbase to make sure steers don't get light. From what i've found, the truck as a tractor would weight a little over 13,000lbs and by the time I put a deck, slip tank, hitch, etc I am guessing it would be up to about 16,500lbs. The tandem dump I pull it with now is pretty much right on 20,000lbs, it's a light international, only 330hp with allison. Front end doesn't get light at all, and I believe empty it's about 8500 front 11500 rears. So the single axle would actually be heavier in the front end by a bit.
For simplicity, if the single axle had the same weight on front axle, and say rear was 3500lbs less, and the same wheelbase would it not be about the same as far as steer axle is concerned? What about if buckets were on deck, and the single axle actually weighted more then the dump?
I can still borrow the tandem dump for any out of town jobs, it will simply be moving it in the city, maybe 15 times a year. I just need a way to move it myself as the dump is too busy in the summer otherwise. I wouldn't consider it if I was going to be moving it on the highway, but it will never see that as my yard is right on the edge of the city so I don't need to ever go over 45 MPH with it. The reason i'm not looking at a tandem dump is the cost, for any sort of decent truck i'm looking at $50k and even that doesn't buy much. Meanwhile I can get a really nice single axle for $20-30k.
I'm not worried about the weight behind the truck, there's enough single axles grossing over 100,000lbs all the time on the highway and it wouldn't be done if they didn't do fine. It's the pin weight of the pintle i'm concerned about how it will handle with one less axle on the truck.