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"Stuck" Tigercat 822

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When they are that stuck, they make good bridges, that's how it's done here, if it's buried any higher than the seat, throw some logs over it and buy another one.
 

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Seems like it could become a costly way to work!


It's the truth, upper management comes out, brings a calculator, and if it will take 3 bigger machines and added manpower and low beds and winch trucks to get the piece of equipment out, it's not worth the replacement value of the machine, especially if it takes a week to arrange everything and another week to move everything to the site and a full week of scratching their arse's after all attempts failed, it's still much faster and cheaper to get a new (or slightly used) machine to replace it and let someone else deal with it, meantime, it's used as either a buoy or a bridge.
 

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When they are that stuck, they make good bridges, that's how it's done here, if it's buried any higher than the seat, throw some logs over it and buy another one.

I've heard tales from years gone by that dozers have been lost in peat bogs in the north of UK, but I have always treated the stories with a degree of scepticism, finding it hard to believe that a machine could be abandoned in such a way. Then I see a picture like that :eek: and it dont seem so unbelievable anymore.

Does anybody know the story behind this. Its obviously bad ground :rolleyes: but has it gone threw ice? or is the area known for bogs? just I've never experienced ground that bad.
 
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I've heard tales from years gone by that dozers have been lost in peat bogs in the north of UK, but I have always treated the stories with a degree of scepticism, finding it hard to believe that a machine could be abandoned in such a way. Then I see a picture like that :eek: and it dont seem so unbelievable anymore.

Does anybody know the story behind this. Its obviously bad ground :rolleyes: but has it gone threw ice? or is the area known for bogs? just I've never experienced ground that bad.


It still happens here, not as much though, but up in the Labrador oil fields, it's still common, I personally have sunk a Kobelco 150 up to the cab floor in Peat Bog soil, when I put the bucket down to paddle my way through, there was no bottom, even after the stick bottomed out up to the boom, the only thing that keeps you floating is the 3 feet of sod, break through it and you're S-C-R-E-W-E-D. :eek:
 

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I have heard of the DEP or EPA coming in and telling guys not to touch stuck machines like this because the enviromental damage is to great and the fines for causing such damage could be more than the machine is worth.
 

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It still happens here, not as much though, but up in the Labrador oil fields, it's still common, I personally have sunk a Kobelco 150 up to the cab floor in Peat Bog soil, when I put the bucket down to paddle my way through, there was no bottom, even after the stick bottomed out up to the boom, the only thing that keeps you floating is the 3 feet of sod, break through it and you're S-C-R-E-W-E-D. :eek:

Thanks Ron, I've seen pics of excavators with timber harvesters on in trouble with peat in north UK, and can appreciate they dont have the benefit of the bucket to help them as soon as they even start to realise there is a problem.
Breaking through the crust I suppose is your worst nightmare. Similar I suppose to being on ice on a pond, even on foot, all's ok until it aint:Banghead If your first across an area it must be like being in a mine field,:confused: Ok not quite that bad but you get the jist lol
 

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Several old timers I have work with have told me stories of just burying stuck machines and a few have found ones that where. I guy was telling me about a 57 and a DD9 they covered up build a dam.
 

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Thanks Ron, I've seen pics of excavators with timber harvesters on in trouble with peat in north UK, and can appreciate they dont have the benefit of the bucket to help them as soon as they even start to realise there is a problem.
Breaking through the crust I suppose is your worst nightmare. Similar I suppose to being on ice on a pond, even on foot, all's ok until it aint:Banghead If your first across an area it must be like being in a mine field,:confused: Ok not quite that bad but you get the jist lol

That same field I got stuck in, there is still an old Cat D-2 in there some where, I was ripping up the land with a 4 foot ripper on an excavator (finding tree stumps and other wood before the drainage machine did) and I kept hitting something that didn't feel like rock, but not like hard pan either, so I kept pulling and scratching away and I pulled up what I learned later was the top hood from the engine compartment! I asked the owner and he told me the story of a logging company that went from real horse power to mechanized means of logging, only to sink their "investment" 6 feet down, horses came back the following week. At least if the horse gets stuck, shoot it and grab another one for cheap.
 

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Lol thats messed up, but you would eat good that week.
 

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Several old timers I have work with have told me stories of just burying stuck machines and a few have found ones that where. I guy was telling me about a 57 and a DD9 they covered up build a dam.

Knowing the size of those machines,did you take thier word as gospel, or in you heart did you allow for a certain amount of poetic licence. ( old timers tellin the young pup a story ) No insult intended in any way, I have always found it unbelievable that machines of that size have been left/lost. Then I see pics as posted here and wooooooo
:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy. As stated I have never encountered ground anything like that, or remotely near it.

That same field I got stuck in, there is still an old Cat D-2 in there some where, I was ripping up the land with a 4 foot ripper on an excavator (finding tree stumps and other wood before the drainage machine did) and I kept hitting something that didn't feel like rock, but not like hard pan either, so I kept pulling and scratching away and I pulled up what I learned later was the top hood from the engine compartment! I asked the owner and he told me the story of a logging company that went from real horse power to mechanized means of logging, only to sink their "investment" 6 feet down, horses came back the following week. At least if the horse gets stuck, shoot it and grab another one for cheap.

Thanks Ron, :jawdrop doesn't even come near to it. Those guys were the pioneers. :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy . I sit here humbled just thinking of what some people have been and still do go threw. Thanks.
 

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:usaHere are a few that might make good candidates to consider leaving to "sprout in the spring" 55c9_12.jpg artcopsx.jpg c6fd_1.jpg Sincerely, ZAXIS
 

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That same field I got stuck in, there is still an old Cat D-2 in there some where, I was ripping up the land with a 4 foot ripper on an excavator (finding tree stumps and other wood before the drainage machine did) and I kept hitting something that didn't feel like rock, but not like hard pan either, so I kept pulling and scratching away and I pulled up what I learned later was the top hood from the engine compartment! I asked the owner and he told me the story of a logging company that went from real horse power to mechanized means of logging, only to sink their "investment" 6 feet down, horses came back the following week. At least if the horse gets stuck, shoot it and grab another one for cheap.

Paging the King of Obsolete... Paging the King of Obsolete...

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